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EDL Demo Downing Street, London

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EDL Demo Downing Street, London

Time: September 20, 2014 from 2pm to 4pm
Location: Downing Street
Website or Map: https://www.facebook.com/even…
Event Type: edl, demo
Organized By: EDL
Latest Activity: Jan 25, 2015

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To bring the message to Westminster.

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Comment by Kinana on January 25, 2015 at 12:37

This was my best pic of the event.  I told them that one day such pics will be on the front page of the Times.

Comment by Kinana on October 5, 2014 at 22:18

EDL Downing Street Speaker Bossman 20th September 2014

http://youtu.be/qevif4EM8F0

EDL Downing Street Speaker Paul Weston 20th September 2014

http://youtu.be/GNbxMWie79A

EDL Downing Street Speaker Ian 20th September 2014

http://youtu.be/2Xkn1z6-QeI

EDL Downing Street, Speaker Banksy 20th September 2014 – Part 1

http://youtu.be/PJ3mLJpDmwo

EDL Downing Street, Speaker Banksy 20th September 2014 – Part 2

http://youtu.be/e9hrxDsEp_s

EDL Downing Street, Speaker Banksy 20th September 2014 – Part 3

http://youtu.be/BNWWPpRzq7k

EDL Downing Street, Speaker Banksy 20th September 2014 – Part 4

http://youtu.be/9yr1n3UQe0s

Comment by Kinana on September 20, 2014 at 0:20
Comment by Kinana on September 17, 2014 at 14:14

Downing Street......
plan to meet at the King Charles 1st monument (A large pedestrian roundabout area), this area is opposite Trafalgar Square (The start of Whitehall) start forming up at the monument from about 1315-13-30 with the wish to move off from that location at 1400. From there will be a procession along Whitehall for a static rally with speeches in Richmond Terrace ( Opposite Downing Street ) from 1430-1600....people coming by coach will have to park along side the embankment and people by train go to charing cross come out turn left and you can't miss it,we will have stewards there to direct you aswell...thank you all for coming and let's have a loud peacefull demo

Comment by Kinana on September 16, 2014 at 13:56
Comment by Kinana on September 16, 2014 at 11:27

An EDL Statement:

Why English Defence League members are coming to Downing Street this Saturday

In our Rotherham demo last Saturday, we highlighted two local issues:
• The abuse of English girls by Muslim sexual grooming gangs
• The further abuse of these English girls by the police, Borough Councillors, other officials and the Muslim community who conspired to let them suffer and, in many cases, increased their suffering.
Across England and across the world, the name Rotherham is now infamous.

But we know the Rotherham saga has been going on across the country. The Rotherham report listed 24 other abuse centres and says: ‘this abuse continues to this day.’ Our members know there are more centres.

***We are going to Downing Street to demand speedy and real action on ALL Muslim grooming, nationwide.

***We are going to Downing Street straight after Rotherham to punch home our messages from Rotherham, urgently, on the national stage.

We know there are Muslims from England involved with ISIS and their beheadings, the slaughter of thousands and the terrorising of thousands more. And we know that some 250 of those fighters have returned to the UK. We heard the prime minister on Sunday 14 September:

--ISIS have planned and continue to plan attacks in our country

--the government is determined to drain this poison from our society

***We are going to Downing Street to demand a ban on the return of British jihadis and real, urgent action to respond to the emergency he describes.

There is another poison in our society, the poison of political correctness. The defining characteristic of the grooming gangs is that they are Muslim. Some may find it distasteful to mouth this truth, but the EDL will mouth it, shout it, sing it and chant it till plain-speaking returns to everyday language.

***We are going to Downing Street to demand an end to the gutless refusal of the government to name Islam as the core problem behind grooming gangs.

This brings us to our fifth and sixth reasons:

***We are going to Downing Street to demand the government take firm action urgently about the many Islamic threats to this country, its people, its culture, its heritage and its future.

***We are going to Downing Street to make an EDL spectacle big enough and clear enough to echo through the media and into the hearts and minds and conversations of millions of people in this country.

We’ll make statements over the following days giving more details.

We are making history.

Comment by Kinana on September 15, 2014 at 13:51

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