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EDL Demo in Telford

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EDL Demo in Telford

Time: May 12, 2018 from 1pm to 3pm
Location: Telford
Website or Map: http://www.englishdefenceleag…
Event Type: demo
Latest Activity: May 14

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Comment by Kinana on May 14, 2018 at 14:14

http://www.englishdefenceleague.org.uk/english-defence-league-state...

Yesterday the English Defence League demonstration in Wellington (near Telford) was disrupted by the opponents of free speech who were given free rein by the police to overturn the demonstration arrangements previously agreed with them.

Our plans for the demonstration -The police had agreed to our plans for a mustering, march, and demonstration with speeches in Wellington Market Square. Our speeches are not just integral to our demonstrations, they are the centre of them: we use our speeches to get our message across.

We must be free to give our speeches – We stand for free speech – the freedom of ordinary people, including working class English men and women – to speak out about issues that concern them and why we want to convey our concern to others.

Speeches in public are part of the English tradition.

Free speech for the elites – The elites exercise their free speech by giving themselves access to expensive media infrastructure – particularly television (with its equipment and skilled technicians and production facilities), national newspapers and books. Most of these are paid for by us through TV licences and the loading on goods we buy that pays for advertising. The elites dominate the media landscape.

But restricted speech for the EDL – We don’t complain about the elites having their own processes. But we do complain when our alternative outlets – speeches in public, placards, vocal street marches and statements on social media – are censored and restricted.

What happened in Wellington yesterday – In the days before the demo we worked with the police – as we always do – to agree to a program that would enable us to demonstrate and the police to do their job. Part of that agreed program was that we would give speeches to the citizens of Wellington at a specific location in Wellington’s Market Square...[To continue follow the link]

Comment by Kinana on May 12, 2018 at 7:36
update
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"Hi guys as some of you know the Lion pub has received threats from I can only presume religion of peace,
We are still using it as our muster point as the pub opposite have informed me will be opening at 12 "

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Comment by Kinana on May 11, 2018 at 13:54

** Details for Telford demo **

For those traveling by train it’s Wellington train station
For those traveling by car or coach, there is a free car park at Wellington train station ... post code TF1 1BY

Directions from train station to muster point is a short walk approx 8 mins
Walk west on Station Road towards Church Street,
Turn right into Church Street
Turn right into Vineyard Road
Turn left onto Park Street
Turn left onto Whitchurch Road
Muster point is The Lion which will be open from 11am ... There will be an all you can eat breakfast for 4.99 and lager is 2.00 a pint

We will march to demo point at 1.15 where speeches will take place
*No alcohol on march*
We are in a high profile area and media attention will be on us
Have a safe journey and enjoy your day

Comment by Kinana on May 7, 2018 at 15:28

English Defence League demo in Telford this Saturday, 12 May

We explain in the briefing why we are demonstrating in Telford this coming Saturday. 

http://www.englishdefenceleague.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/E... 

From the Briefing: "Islam brings problems to many locations: Trojan Horse schools in the West Midlands, terrorist attacks on civilians in Manchester and London, rape jihad brutality in Oxford, Telford, Rotherham, Keighley and 50 other centres across England. Our demonstrations are about all of these and more. Our demonstrations are national protests and national calls to action. Our demonstrations will continue across England while the problems persist anywhere in England."

Comment by Kinana on April 30, 2018 at 21:33

presss release

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English Defence League

Telford demo, 12 May 2018
Media Notice

 

The English Defence League will be demonstrating with a march and speeches to the public in Telford on Saturday, 12 May 2018.

This follows on from our successful demonstration in Walsall on 7 April.

The core of our message will be outrage at the abuse of English girls at the hands of Muslim grooming gangs.

Other aspects which we will highlight will be:

  • Encouragement of those in charge of law enforcement to do just that: enforce the law, particularly the law of consent, and arrest and prosecute the criminals.
  • Free speech
  • Analysis of the Islamic basis of Muslim grooming gangs
  • The failure of the Muslim community to admit and react to these latest revelations

We protested in Telford in November 2016 following the initial revelations by the Sunday Mirror and the expressions of dismay by the local MP (Lucy Allen, a Tory) and the denials and downplaying by police and officials.

We return to Telford because the latest revelations estimate that 1,000 girls had been abused in this one small town. This is proportionately worse than the terrible record in Rotherham, which officially recorded 1400 girl victims.

One argument which we always are faced with is the question of whether we are causing division in the community and making matters worse by our protest.

Our reply is a resounding no!  Due to the widespread criminality of Muslim grooming gangs the divisions are there in abundance for those with eyes to see.  We merely expose them to light of day and to the wider public.  This is our democratic right and obligation.  We are non-violent and peaceful, even if somewhat boisterous.  Those who oppose our demonstration reveal themselves to be anti-democratic, anti-free speech and not having the best interests of the victims in mind.

Our demonstration will be in Wellington, Telford, which is the next station along from Telford Central.

Further details will be available on 8 May. 

Contact/info

edlmedia@fastmail.com

http://www.englishdefenceleague.org.uk/

http://www.englishdefenceleague.org.uk/events/

https://www.facebook.com/events/191103948333344/

 

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