The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

ECAW's Discussions (29)

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"I think this pic sums up Antifa: "

ECAW replied Jul 5, 2019 to Robert Spencer on Antifa

2 Jul 5, 2019
Reply by Antony

"Presumably he will say that he is only promoting his version of Islam and the others…"

ECAW replied Nov 26, 2016 to Ahmadiyya Muslims

6 Oct 23, 2018
Reply by Alan Lake

"Off topic - I suggested to someone who is interested in this sort of thing that they…"

ECAW replied Jun 11, 2016 to Quran 9.5: qualified or not?

24 Jun 12, 2016
Reply by Kinana

"Alan – I agree with you and Kinana that the example of Mohammed is a strong argument…"

ECAW replied Jun 10, 2016 to Quran 9.5: qualified or not?

24 Jun 12, 2016
Reply by Kinana

"Kinana – 1. I intended the title to be provocative (I was thinking of George Davis w…"

ECAW replied Jun 4, 2016 to Quran 9.5: qualified or not?

24 Jun 12, 2016
Reply by Kinana

"Kinana – You debate with Muslims? You deserve a medal! From now on (when debating wi…"

ECAW replied Jun 3, 2016 to Quran 9.5: qualified or not?

24 Jun 12, 2016
Reply by Kinana

"Kinana – Yes I know the great mediaeval commentators interpret the jihad verses as u…"

ECAW replied Jun 3, 2016 to Quran 9.5: qualified or not?

24 Jun 12, 2016
Reply by Kinana

"Alan – thanks for your reply. There are just two rather minor points I want to respo…"

ECAW replied Jun 3, 2016 to Quran 9.5: qualified or not?

24 Jun 12, 2016
Reply by Kinana

"Glad you like it Alan (any comments on the site are appreciated - just to make the p…"

ECAW replied Jul 2, 2015 to Colour coding the Koran

20 Jul 2, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"Thanks for your comments. I used this as a basis for the selection of jihad verses:…"

ECAW replied May 29, 2015 to Colour coding the Koran

20 Jul 2, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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