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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"re Ali Sina   http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/ I receive ma…"

Kinana replied Jan 1, 2011 to Is this the end times?

11 Jan 1, 2011
Reply by paul collings

"it is significant if Al jazeera is saying this.  Ali Sina speaks of Islam collapsing…"

Kinana replied Jan 1, 2011 to Is this the end times?

11 Jan 1, 2011
Reply by paul collings

"AP 'Just noting the news that people in Gateshead were arrested for burning a Quran…"

Kinana replied Sep 24, 2010 to Leaflet on muhammuds sex life,rapes and murders.

3 Sep 24, 2010
Reply by Kinana

"Brad, I recently asked a Jewish friend a question about kosher killing. I was told t…"

Kinana replied Sep 22, 2010 to disgusting halal ~ ban it now

1 Sep 22, 2010
Reply by Kinana

"AP have a look at the pdf attachment here: http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/IslamicM…"

Kinana replied Sep 12, 2010 to Leaflet on muhammuds sex life,rapes and murders.

3 Sep 24, 2010
Reply by Kinana

"What is it about?! I often do not have access to youtube, as probably many others. y…"

Kinana replied Apr 15, 2010 to STAND-UP !

1 Apr 15, 2010
Reply by Kinana

"Thomas, the video link is broken and there is no url."

Kinana replied Mar 23, 2010 to "FOLLOW ME NOW PATRIOTS TO VICTORY AND FREEDOM !

1 Mar 23, 2010
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"it is easier for people to throw mud and accusations than to provide evidence and lo…"

Kinana replied Mar 7, 2010 to "TEA PARTY IS RACIST"

1 Mar 7, 2010
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"i do not want to believe it if it is untrue. a good story is even better if it is tr…"

Kinana replied Feb 15, 2010 to COMMUNION ON THE MOON !

4 Feb 15, 2010
Reply by Kinana

"Thomas, please provide a url and source for this story. thanks"

Kinana replied Feb 14, 2010 to COMMUNION ON THE MOON !

4 Feb 15, 2010
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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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