And more rapes.....by rapefugees

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Permalink Reply by Antony on January 19, 2016 at 8:22

Although if verifiable from other sources, in this case the Express, this report may be sound, Shoebat as a source has been doubted, and he is often overhyped by himself - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Shoebat

Permalink Reply by Antony on January 19, 2016 at 9:13

Allah approves of rape ; http://freethinker.co.uk/2016/01/18/allah-approves-of-rape-says-egy...

Permalink Reply by Philip Smeeton on January 19, 2016 at 10:44

Not too difficult though Herman, where I am the media sends daily reports about integrated immigrants and the good that they do for society, and visits to mosques and interviews with Muslims that protest their innocence and state that this crime and terrorism has nothing to do with the peaceful religion of Islam. Most immigrants do not contribute anything positive to society but the press can always find some that do. Recently the cable and satellite companies have complained that in the immigrant districts almost no one pays for TV or internet, they buy pirate cable boxes and key cards. Those selling this stuff and earning millions have been shown to have links to terrorist organizations. Then there is tax-evasion, theft, smuggling, and all of the other crime based on lack of respect for their hosts and host countries. Immigration is a burden to the economy and culture in so many ways.

The press also condemns automatically any attempt by the government to send criminals and false asylum-seekers out of the country, claiming human rights violations and pointing to UN condemnation of the deportations. They give the impression that these asylum seekers are persecuted and abused women with small children, while in fact most are single Muslim males that think that the local women deserve to be raped.

Permalink Reply by Joe on January 19, 2016 at 11:54

Darling Shiva used to be very keen on expecting the highest standards from our allies. I remember him pointing out problems with Shoebat, Geller, BNI, etc.

The problem for us is, there are so few of us, those who are whacky don't get lost in the noise. Moreover, because we fight such an uphill battle against the forces of deception and disinformation, and even risk our jobs, our lives, etc. any of us can have a moment/topic where we go to far, and say something that might make us look weird and unreliable.  I certainly remember just a few years ago, that I was dismissive of the idea that the UN could have plans to replace the population of Europe. I've got far more time for that now (having seen the documents on the UN website). However, once one opens up to investigating/considering such an issue, where does it stop?  I try to stick to official documents/statistics. 

A similar problem happened when I first started discussing the idea of an elite who usurped democracy. We lost good people over their dissension from this idea. Perhaps with ideas which are "way out" we should amass evidence first before presenting them. But then that gives we few an additional burden.  

Antony said:

Although if verifiable from other sources, in this case the Express, this report may be sound, Shoebat as a source has been doubted, and he is often overhyped by himself - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Shoebat

Permalink Reply by Herman Van Keer on January 19, 2016 at 13:19

I know that Shoebat goes overboard rather often.. and I am always careful when quoting him or posting from his website.
In this case -when mozlims crimes "taharrush" are silenced by the 'media'- I definitely make an exception.

Antony said:

Although if verifiable from other sources, in this case the Express, this report may be sound, Shoebat as a source has been doubted, and he is often overhyped by himself - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Shoebat

Permalink Reply by Herman Van Keer on January 19, 2016 at 13:21

Rape of 'captured women', whose marriage are annulled just by being captured by mozlims.
And rape of their wives, as stated in quran sura 2, verse 223: your wives (yes plural) are a garden for you to go in at will
(it's not the 'approved' translation, but one gets the drift)

Antony said:

Allah approves of rape ; http://freethinker.co.uk/2016/01/18/allah-approves-of-rape-says-egy...

Permalink Reply by Philip Smeeton on January 19, 2016 at 14:43

I have not noticed that anyone is whacky here. We must all just say exactly what we think and believe, and accept criticism and correction without taking it personally. I like to be right so I appreciate being told I'm wrong by people I trust and respect. I do not read answers to my comments in newspapers because those that disagree with me usually are Muslim or loony Left, of course I would appreciate constructive or at least intelligent and reasoned replies but then I would have to wade through all of those that just shout insults at me. I just note the likes.

I am not a fan of conspiracy theories, even though of course conspiracies do abound. I do not think that those that are destroying Europe are part of a conspiracy, I think most act out from personal principles like Merkel, she believes that we must ultimately wipe out nations and is attempting to hasten the process along, and well, everyone is equal so we have no right to say no to anyone that wants to move into our country, we must do everything in our power to help them, for the sake of humanity, our consciences and our principles, convictions and beliefs. To a socialist socialism is the solution to everything.

They just don't see the rapes and the crime and that this by share weight of numbers and births will lead to there being a muslim majority, and we know what will happen then. but they cannot think this because that would be racist.

If you treat people nicely and generously there is no guarantee that they will be nice back. I have heard socialist politicians in the past say that if we allow immigrants to come here and treat them well they will become like us. I'm still waiting for this integrated and harmonious society to happen.