UNSUBSTANTIATED DISCUSSION TERMINATED: EDL threats yet again prove they are nothing but violent thugs - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-28T10:41:38Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/edl-threats-yet-again-prove-they-are-nothing-but-violent-thugs?groupUrl=EDL&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A69267&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A255&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWell I shant harp on as Bill…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-21:3766518:Comment:719122011-08-21T21:29:49.801ZVillagehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Village
<p>Well I shant harp on as Bill has obviously deserted this thread after being outed again. However, after attending the BPS demo yesterday I feel that a number of points need addressing. </p>
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<p>Where was Bill? He put himself down as attending and after all the guff he spouted this week it was rude of him not to show.</p>
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<p>Did the alleged threats of violence put him off or had he fulfilled his mission of ruining this demo before it had even started and no longer felt the…</p>
<p>Well I shant harp on as Bill has obviously deserted this thread after being outed again. However, after attending the BPS demo yesterday I feel that a number of points need addressing. </p>
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<p>Where was Bill? He put himself down as attending and after all the guff he spouted this week it was rude of him not to show.</p>
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<p>Did the alleged threats of violence put him off or had he fulfilled his mission of ruining this demo before it had even started and no longer felt the need to attend. </p>
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<p>I found it odd that senior police officers were walking around looking for bill baker who was (according to them), an organizer of this event. This certainly left other people very bemused. </p>
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<p>Speaking to a number of people that were there yesterday it became apparent that the crap that bill had excreted all week had took its toll on numbers. A lady from UKIP said that numbers were down as She and others had been told that the EDL were going to hijack this demo. A rumour started by bill and wholly untrue.</p>
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<p>Others had not attended as they had heard that UAF and Antifa were going to be protesting against this march and they were worried about any possible confrontation. Again another rumour started by bill and again wholly untrue.</p>
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<p>So there you have it. As I had previously commented, bill will sabotage any event that he feels is in competition with the ENA and his attempts to lead British nationalism. In fact bill is the new Anjem Choudrey. An arch manipulator who will lie through his teeth, claiming to be organising and attending events and then not turning up.</p>
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<p>Whatever small amount of credibility he may have held was washed away in yesterday's rain.. </p> WRB
I note that you have had…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-20:3766518:Comment:713262011-08-20T15:32:39.359ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>WRB</p>
<p>I note that you have had time to start and comment on other discussions and but not enough time to respond to the questions posed by those who disagree with you on this discussion. It seems to me that you therefore have consciously and deliberately refused to respond to the serious questions posed by myself and Tony Curtis. You have cast dispersions and thrown mud around and ‘walked/ran away.’</p>
<p>Disagreement and discussion over ideas is fine but you have called into…</p>
<p>WRB</p>
<p>I note that you have had time to start and comment on other discussions and but not enough time to respond to the questions posed by those who disagree with you on this discussion. It seems to me that you therefore have consciously and deliberately refused to respond to the serious questions posed by myself and Tony Curtis. You have cast dispersions and thrown mud around and ‘walked/ran away.’</p>
<p>Disagreement and discussion over ideas is fine but you have called into question the personal integrity of people, people I know, and particularly ALL the members of the English Defence League by your unsubstantiated headline and further comments. Such unsubstantiated headlines are not welcome here on 4F. I expect this sort of rubbishing from the main stream media and publications like Searchlight but not from someone who, I believe, is at heart a patriot. Your behaviour is a mystery to me. Be that as it may, for your attention I point out violation of several of the <a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/admin/forum/topics/behaviour-standards-and" target="_self">4F guidelines</a>:</p>
<p><i>Intro: A major consideration is consumption of Administrator time, as the latter is a very limited resource and we cannot afford to waste it on behaviour which is not constructive for building the community and helping its goals. </i></p>
<p><i>2.2 Personal abuse.</i></p>
<p><i>6.3 Whilst we encourage healthy debate, special consideration must be given to partners and allies, for which healthy discussion could be re-used as negative propaganda. If you think there's a chance of that happening, then please continue your discussion in a private room, or by email.</i></p>
<p>Please take this as a warning.</p> Village,
I did not apprecia…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-19:3766518:Comment:708442011-08-19T07:53:49.732ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>Village,</p>
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<p>I did not appreciate that before: the screen shot on which WRB makes these accusations is not even the EDL facebook page. So his headline accusations are even more inaccurate. But hopefully soon he will provide more evidence or modify his stance to something more consistent with the evidence he provides.</p>
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<p>Village,</p>
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<p>I did not appreciate that before: the screen shot on which WRB makes these accusations is not even the EDL facebook page. So his headline accusations are even more inaccurate. But hopefully soon he will provide more evidence or modify his stance to something more consistent with the evidence he provides.</p>
<p> </p> And yet again a reminder that…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-19:3766518:Comment:709382011-08-19T06:24:36.756ZVillagehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Village
<p>And yet again a reminder that the screenshot of these alledged threats was from the Casuals United facebook page and not EDL.</p>
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<p>Personally I dont even see a threat there but hey, I,m not the sensitive one. Anways Bill, how are your very peacable friends in the NWi and CxF?</p>
<p>And yet again a reminder that the screenshot of these alledged threats was from the Casuals United facebook page and not EDL.</p>
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<p>Personally I dont even see a threat there but hey, I,m not the sensitive one. Anways Bill, how are your very peacable friends in the NWi and CxF?</p> WRB
You so far have not respo…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-18:3766518:Comment:707622011-08-18T22:36:09.730ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>WRB</p>
<p>You so far have not responded to <a href="edl-threats-yet-again-prove-they-are-nothing-but-violent-thugs?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A69707&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A255">my point</a> and the follow up points by <a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/EDL/forum/topics/edl-threats-yet-again-prove-they-are-nothing-but-violent-thugs?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A69267&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A255">Tony Curtis</a> about your headline designating the English Defence League…</p>
<p>WRB</p>
<p>You so far have not responded to <a href="edl-threats-yet-again-prove-they-are-nothing-but-violent-thugs?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A69707&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A255">my point</a> and the follow up points by <a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/EDL/forum/topics/edl-threats-yet-again-prove-they-are-nothing-but-violent-thugs?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A69267&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A255">Tony Curtis</a> about your headline designating the English Defence League as nothing but violent thugs based solely on the screen shot from Facebook. Is this still your position? If so, can you provide more evidence? If you cannot, do you see how unbelievable your claim is? Are you calling Tony Curtis a violent thug? Are you calling me a violent thug?! Since he is more EDL than I am are you saying he is more of a violent thug than I am?!</p> Well well William. I'm sure…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-18:3766518:Comment:703972011-08-18T20:40:26.011ZVillagehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Village
<pre><tt>Well well William. I'm sure you sat there splitting your sides as you managed to link</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>the word village with 'idiot'. It's unfortunate however Billy Boy that there is nothing</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>original about it. Yes I can be foolish at times but if there were a podium finish </tt></pre>
<pre><tt>for idiocy you would indeed win gold. You continue to trot the same old rubbish with</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>regard to drugs and merchandising whilst chastising people for…</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>Well well William. I'm sure you sat there splitting your sides as you managed to link</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>the word village with 'idiot'. It's unfortunate however Billy Boy that there is nothing</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>original about it. Yes I can be foolish at times but if there were a podium finish </tt></pre>
<pre><tt>for idiocy you would indeed win gold. You continue to trot the same old rubbish with</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>regard to drugs and merchandising whilst chastising people for drunkenness . How you</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>would love to have the support that the EDL musters but you dont. Like MOhammeds </tt></pre>
<pre><tt>attempts to ingratiate himself with the Jews and the Christians you have attempted</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>the same with the BNP, Mfe, EDL and English Democrats. And just as big Mo was, you</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>were royally fucked off.</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>I understand your bitterness, I mean it couldn't have been easy wanting to be EDL </tt></pre>
<pre><tt>top dog and finding that you weren't even wanted at the bowl. I suppose that's why</tt></pre>
<pre><tt>you've tried to gather all the other runts of the litter together. </tt></pre>
<pre><tt>Anyhow , with </tt><span style="font-family: monospace;">regard to your claims about UAF and antifa. It is customary to </span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: monospace;">provide a link to verify your claims.</span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: monospace;">Oh, and one other thing Willy. It's not advisable to criticise a mans choice of </span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-family: monospace;">non de plume when your parents have chosen to name you after a mans appendage. XX </span></pre>
<div><tt><br/></tt></div> See you at the fate on Saturd…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-18:3766518:Comment:706082011-08-18T15:51:27.553ZAndrew Wildershttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AndrewPeck
See you at the fate on Saturday.
See you at the fate on Saturday. I think the only idiot here i…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-18:3766518:Comment:705072011-08-18T11:30:51.594ZAndrew Wildershttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AndrewPeck
I think the only idiot here is the one that stares back at you in the mirror. What a stirring, lying, little creature you are, fancy stirring up the pot with your continual posting in public about EDL this and EDL that, no wonder people get all riled up with your constant barrage and bickering. You are worse than the U.A.F. Are you getting paid by the Police?
I think the only idiot here is the one that stares back at you in the mirror. What a stirring, lying, little creature you are, fancy stirring up the pot with your continual posting in public about EDL this and EDL that, no wonder people get all riled up with your constant barrage and bickering. You are worse than the U.A.F. Are you getting paid by the Police? Yes you would bill, you crave…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-17:3766518:Comment:701022011-08-17T21:44:36.485ZVillagehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Village
<p>Yes you would bill, you crave attention you old attention seeker you.</p>
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<p>And is it true that you've been telling people that UAF and antifa (never seen them myself in this country), are protesting the BPS march on Saturday. Tsk, blaming the EDL for putting people off going and then spreading these unsubstantiated rumors. I ask you. Is there no depths you wont sink to in your quest to destroy any competition to the ENA? </p>
<p>Yes you would bill, you crave attention you old attention seeker you.</p>
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<p>And is it true that you've been telling people that UAF and antifa (never seen them myself in this country), are protesting the BPS march on Saturday. Tsk, blaming the EDL for putting people off going and then spreading these unsubstantiated rumors. I ask you. Is there no depths you wont sink to in your quest to destroy any competition to the ENA? </p> You just can't stop your obse…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-08-17:3766518:Comment:698272011-08-17T14:52:31.001ZAndrew Wildershttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AndrewPeck
You just can't stop your obsession Bill. Perhaps the deal is to mob your march instead! Perhaps we''ll head up after.
You just can't stop your obsession Bill. Perhaps the deal is to mob your march instead! Perhaps we''ll head up after.