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15 Photos From the Tahrir Square Protests You'll Never See In Legacy Media. 

[MB = Muslim Brotherhood]
Curiously, a massive wave of anti-Obama sentiment in Egypt has been utterly ignored by vintage media, even though the protests may be the largest in all of human history.

Consider the dichotomy: Obama 2011: Mubarak Must Go; Obama Today: ‘It’s not our job to choose who Egypt’s leaders are’.

Update: Via Robert Spencer:

Hat tipsBadBlue Real-Time News and Dancing Czars.

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It would be ironic if the freedom loving peoples of Egypt who are prepared to fight and die for the freedom (unlike the Ansar hangers-on in Europe and the US) were to get the MB properly recognised as a Fascist movement.  Then if it were banned in our countries and Hizb ut-Tahrir etc shut down, we should all go over to Egypt and kiss them.  Maybe, after 1400 years, they are remembering their Coptic roots and their glorious pre-Christian civilisation, and rejecting their subjugation under the yolk of Islam?  One can but hope.

BTW, notice that the MB retreat to their many massive Command and Control Centres (CCC) to regroup, plan and re-arm. Just like in Nigeria.  Its standard practice.   How many do we have in the UK again? Do we have any CCC?  'Fraid not.

you would not believe how little of what is happening in Egypt is being shown on American Tv.  Its getting little slots, normally late at night, and then its over to the Travon/Zimmerman case.

July 4th fell just in the right time this year. Or was it the Egyptian military planned it that way. Obamacare hit the rocks this week as well, just in time for july 4th to shadow the problems.

All those people in far off lands prepared to die for freedom. Aren't our governments lucky such people don't exist in the west.  Goodness, just the suggestion (of freedom) is enough to get your front door kicked in.

The "British" TV news such as BBC & Channel 4 keep banging on about "democratic" Morsi being ousted - ignoring the fact that his lackeys have been persecuting & raping Christians,secularists etc and was heading towards a state that was anything but democratic - what a shower of Muslim Brotherhood arselickers !


banging on about "democratic" Morsi being ousted - ignoring the fact

The other facts they are ignoring are that the MB has had more than just the mosques Command and Control infrastructure in place - the MB was like a state within a state, running schools, medical services, a militia, etc.

The media and their double standards are the enemy.  The first ever book on the MB (written by an arab admirer, 2 years after MB was "shut down") stated he could now tell the truth about MB, including that it was modelled on a cross between the Nazi Party, the Communist Party and Salafism.

Imagine if Hitler's Nazi Party had been reformed, they were running a state within a state, and after the EU had closed down all other political organisations and elections in the preceding 30 years, this secretive Nazi Party was the only organisation with offices/officials across europe.  Would our media be silent about the past of the Nazis, about how they were the only organisation equipped to compete in new elections?

They may have spell it wrong but they got it right

Islamists throw Egyptian youths off roof  ;

Given that the anti Morsi protestors are fighting for democracy and against fascism, the left will of course be demonstrating that Obama should arm the anti-Morsi freedom fighters in advance of the forthcoming civil war...will they hell !


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