Failed Heroes of the Left: Noam Chomsky - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-29T05:44:23Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/failed-heroes-of-the-left-noam-chomsky?groupUrl=argumentation&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A166513&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A1677&feed=yes&xn_auth=noZIZEK STRIKES BACK! CALLS CHO…tag:4freedoms.com,2016-03-23:3766518:Comment:1764342016-03-23T02:08:11.585ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
ZIZEK STRIKES BACK! CALLS CHOMSKY EMPIRICALLY WRONG:<br />
<a href="http://www.critical-theory.com/zizek-strikes-back-calls-chomsky-empirically-wrong/" target="_blank">http://www.critical-theory.com/zizek-strikes-back-calls-chomsky-empirically-wrong/</a>
ZIZEK STRIKES BACK! CALLS CHOMSKY EMPIRICALLY WRONG:<br />
<a href="http://www.critical-theory.com/zizek-strikes-back-calls-chomsky-empirically-wrong/" target="_blank">http://www.critical-theory.com/zizek-strikes-back-calls-chomsky-empirically-wrong/</a> Earth to Noam Chomsky.Come in…tag:4freedoms.com,2016-02-04:3766518:Comment:1745222016-02-04T08:02:35.601ZAntonyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Antony
<p>Earth to Noam Chomsky.Come in Noam ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79BedZvVF7I&feature=em-uploademail-smbtn" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79BedZvVF7I&feature=em-uploademail-smbtn</a></p>
<p>Earth to Noam Chomsky.Come in Noam ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79BedZvVF7I&feature=em-uploademail-smbtn" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79BedZvVF7I&feature=em-uploademail-smbtn</a></p> Young Turks on Sam Harris vs…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-16:3766518:Comment:1666902015-05-16T06:36:50.867ZAntonyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Antony
<p>Young Turks on Sam Harris vs Noam Chomsky ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBRVRBhSso&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBRVRBhSso&feature=youtu.be</a></p>
<p>Young Turks on Sam Harris vs Noam Chomsky ; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBRVRBhSso&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBRVRBhSso&feature=youtu.be</a></p> Sam Harris ; final thoughts o…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-15:3766518:Comment:1665902015-05-15T06:19:40.934ZAntonyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Antony
<p>Sam Harris ; final thoughts on Chomsky ; <a href="http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/final-thoughts-on-chomsky" target="_blank">http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/final-thoughts-on-chomsky</a></p>
<p>Sam Harris ; final thoughts on Chomsky ; <a href="http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/final-thoughts-on-chomsky" target="_blank">http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/final-thoughts-on-chomsky</a></p> The more I think about this i…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-09:3766518:Comment:1665132015-05-09T02:09:40.779ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>The more I think about this interchange, the more I agree with Chomsky's points. In fact, he makes one extremely important point, which seems to fly right over Sam's head. This point is one we should quote constantly, since it validates our point of view in the fight against the kuffarphobia of Islam. A good explanation of this point is in this forum post:…</p>
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<p>The more I think about this interchange, the more I agree with Chomsky's points. In fact, he makes one extremely important point, which seems to fly right over Sam's head. This point is one we should quote constantly, since it validates our point of view in the fight against the kuffarphobia of Islam. A good explanation of this point is in this forum post:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.samharris.org/forum/viewthread/18073/#226960" target="_blank">https://www.samharris.org/forum/viewthread/18073/#226960</a></p>
<blockquote><p><span>I also reviewed the substantial evidence about the very sincere intentions of Japanese fascists while they were devastating China, Hitler in the Sudetenland and Poland, etc. There is at least as much reason to suppose that they were sincere as Clinton was when he bombed al-Shifa. Much more so in fact. Therefore, if you believe what you are saying, you should be justifying their actions as well. I also reviewed other cases, pointing out that <strong>professing benign intentions is the norm for those who carry out atrocities and crimes</strong>, perhaps sincerely – and surely more plausibly than in this case. And that only the most abject apologists justify the actions on the grounds that perpetrators are adopting the normal stance of criminals.</span></p>
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<p>So the next time some Lefturd blathers on about how well meaning all their Muslim allies are, and how they disassociate themselves from the actions of the so-called fundamentalists, remind them that:</p>
<p>Chomsky says: "<strong>professing benign intentions is the norm for those who carry out atrocities and crimes</strong>",</p>
<p>which in this case translates into deceiving Muslim apologists who secretly <em>support</em> the carrying out of Islamic atrocities and crimes, because they know that it advances their cause. Just like the endless killings and bombings of those who dare to speak out against Islamic Fascism - helps to silence all criticism of and dissent from Islam.</p>
<p></p> Oh dear, that was painful to …tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-02:3766518:Comment:1662142015-05-02T07:18:59.145ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Oh dear, that was painful to watch. I'm afraid my sympathies lie with Chomsky on this one.</p>
<p>Sam does fail to respond properly to many of the charges made by Chomsky, and tellingly, perceives his behaviour as unco-operative. On the contrary, I would say that Chomsky was very kind in that exchange. I would have given up half way thru.</p>
<p>Sam's robotic insistance on viewing the issues thru the lens of the Theravada Buddhist frame…</p>
<p>Oh dear, that was painful to watch. I'm afraid my sympathies lie with Chomsky on this one.</p>
<p>Sam does fail to respond properly to many of the charges made by Chomsky, and tellingly, perceives his behaviour as unco-operative. On the contrary, I would say that Chomsky was very kind in that exchange. I would have given up half way thru.</p>
<p>Sam's robotic insistance on viewing the issues thru the lens of the Theravada Buddhist frame of Intention, becomes tiresome, and Chomsky refutes it in the end, anyway.</p>
<p>The sole piece of evidence Sam produces for one claim, the Youtube video, is spurious.</p>
<p>Chomsky made just one mistake: he offered reciprocity on other-critiques, when he knew there were none to be had. Its not that heinous a crime!</p> The limits of discourse - Sam…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-02:3766518:Comment:1659152015-05-02T05:41:14.862ZAntonyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Antony
<p>The limits of discourse - Sam Harris & Noam Chomsky ; <a href="http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-limits-of-discourse" target="_blank">http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-limits-of-discourse</a></p>
<p>The limits of discourse - Sam Harris & Noam Chomsky ; <a href="http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-limits-of-discourse" target="_blank">http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-limits-of-discourse</a></p>