Kuffarphobia via Hijacked Watchmen / NGOs - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-28T18:12:53Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/failed-institutions-and-ngos-the-cyclops-watchmen?groupUrl=freespeech&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFrom personal experience I ca…tag:4freedoms.com,2016-02-22:3766518:Comment:1761072016-02-22T14:22:31.108ZPhilip Smeetonhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PhilipSmeeton
<p>From personal experience I can say that stupidity is its own reward, but most of us are allowed to learn from our mistakes. Any woman that travels unaccompanied in a muslim country, or anywhere else for that matter, and accepts lifts from strangers is going to sooner or later get raped and very likely murdered. Two women I have known told me that they had been picked up and raped while hitch-hiking.</p>
<p>From personal experience I can say that stupidity is its own reward, but most of us are allowed to learn from our mistakes. Any woman that travels unaccompanied in a muslim country, or anywhere else for that matter, and accepts lifts from strangers is going to sooner or later get raped and very likely murdered. Two women I have known told me that they had been picked up and raped while hitch-hiking.</p> Just to record how the Leftis…tag:4freedoms.com,2016-02-22:3766518:Comment:1761032016-02-22T13:16:09.153ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>Just to record how the Leftist narrative conceals the information which would enable our society as a whole to protect itself, information which would allow specific vulnerable/attacked groups (women, schoolgirls, gays) to protect themselves by not getting into dangerous situations. I first found this story in a footnote in one of Mark Steyn's books, and was amazed that I did not know it (I probably read the Steyn books around 2011, so just a few years after this event). <strong> Here was a…</strong></p>
<p>Just to record how the Leftist narrative conceals the information which would enable our society as a whole to protect itself, information which would allow specific vulnerable/attacked groups (women, schoolgirls, gays) to protect themselves by not getting into dangerous situations. I first found this story in a footnote in one of Mark Steyn's books, and was amazed that I did not know it (I probably read the Steyn books around 2011, so just a few years after this event). <strong> Here was a couple of liberal, female "performance artists" who set out to prove that muslims were not dangerous. One of them ended up raped and murdered in muslim Turkey. Instead of this woman being commemorated (the way Stephen Lawrence is), her examplary death is forgotten, as it undermines the Leftist lie.</strong></p>
<blockquote><h1 id="story-heading" class="story-heading">Performance Artist Killed on Peace Trip Is Mourned</h1>
<div id="story-meta-footer" class="story-meta-footer"><p class="byline-dateline"><span class="byline">By <span class="byline-author"><a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/elisabetta_povoledo/index.html" title="More Articles by ELISABETTA POVOLEDO">ELISABETTA POVOLEDO</a> </span></span>APRIL 19, 2008</p>
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<p class="story-body-text story-content" id="story-continues-1">MILAN — The two friends, both performance artists, hatched the idea about a year ago: wearing white wedding dresses, they would hitchhike from Italy to the Balkans to the Middle East to send a message of peace and “marriage between different peoples and nations.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" id="story-continues-2">But the message delivered by their performance piece was mostly sad and raw. After just three weeks on the road, one of the two Italian artists, Pippa Bacca, 33, was killed by a driver who offered her a ride.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">Her naked body was found on April 11 in some bushes near a Turkish village after a suspect led investigators to the site. Although an official cause of death has not been given, local Turkish authorities said Ms. Bacca had been raped and strangled.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">The killing has stirred broad public anger and grief in Turkey and Italy. Still, what Ms. Bacca would have wanted, her family and friends said, was her message of peace to live on.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" id="story-continues-3">“She thought that in the world there were more positive than negative people, and that it was right to be trusting,” said Rosalia Pasqualino, a sister of Ms. Bacca, whose real name was Giuseppina Pasqualino di Marineo. “Trust is a very human factor, and she believed that to understand people, you had to get to know them.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">On Saturday the artist’s friends, relatives and supporters will honor her memory and her quixotic quest in a short procession from the Pasqualino family home here to a Roman Catholic church nearby.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">A choir that Ms. Bacca founded will perform at the funeral Mass (they don’t sing very well, her sister said fondly, but they are always quite entertaining), and everyone has been asked to wear or to carry something green, the artist’s favorite color.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">“The family wanted to remember her in a joyous manner,” said Silvia Moro, 37, the artist who set out with Ms. Bacca on the trip, billed as “Brides on Tour,” on March 8. She said she last saw her friend on March 19 in Istanbul, where the two split up and agreed to rejoin each other in Beirut.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">The performance piece, a trip through nearly a dozen countries in the Balkans and the Middle East, many of them ravaged by war recently, was meant to underscore that “by overcoming differences and lowering the level of conflict,” individuals and cultures could come together, Ms. Moro said in a telephone interview. “Meeting people was the key.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" id="story-continues-4">Ms. Bacca’s trip was cut short near the village of Gebze, about 40 miles southeast of Istanbul. An unemployed man, Murat Karatas, 38, has confessed to killing her shortly after picking her up on March 31, the authorities have said.</p>
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<p class="story-body-text story-content" id="story-continues-5">Accepting rides with strangers was crucial to the art performance’s success, Ms. Moro said. The artists’ statement at their Web site,<a target="_" href="http://bridesontour.fotoup.net/">bridesontour.fotoup.net</a>, says, “Hitchhiking is choosing to have faith in other human beings, and man, like a small god, rewards those who have faith in him.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" id="story-continues-6">Ms. Moro explained: “It’s a poor way of traveling, and we wanted to underscore that you can’t foster love between people if you’re holed up in business class. You can’t go to, say, Mauritius, and eat pasta. You won’t understand people until you break bread with them, because it’s in the small diversities that you find similarities.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">After reports of Ms. Bacca’s death circulated, Ms. Bacca’s family and Italian and Turkish government officials immediately emphasized that the killing had been a cruel act by a possibly deranged person and could have happened almost anywhere.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">“Just read any newspaper — people get killed for playing music too loudly, and women get raped in the subway; there are fiends everywhere,” Ms. Pasqualino said. “This was not a question of Turkey or of religion.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">Stefano Canzio, the Italian consul in Istanbul, said by telephone that “the reaction was very strong” in Turkey, and not just in the news media. Turkish citizens have sent scores of condolence messages to the Italian consulate in Istanbul and to the artist’s family, he said, adding, “People were incensed that a Turkish man could carry out such a heinous crime on a young woman who was on a trip for peace.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">Turkey’s president, Abdullah Gul, called President Giorgio Napolitano of Italy to relay the “heartfelt grief of the Turkish population for the tragedy,” according to Mr. Napolitano’s office.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">Ms. Pasqualino expressed gratitude to the Turkish authorities for solving the crime. “It only took them a few days,” she said. “We could have been left wondering all our lives what had happened to my sister.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" id="story-continues-7">The police said they had tracked down Mr. Karatas after he used a cellphone that he had taken from Ms. Bacca.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" id="story-continues-8">Ms. Moro said she and Ms. Bacca had dreamed up the performance piece at a party last spring. Wearing different wedding dresses designed by Manuel Facchini of the fashion company Byblos, the two artists were to travel — at times together, at times separately — through northeastern Italy, Serbia, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Turkey, Lebanon, the <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/p/palestinians/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier" title="More articles about Palestinians." class="meta-classifier">Palestinian</a> territories and Syria, before arriving in Israel. Along the way they would stop at galleries, foundations or cultural centers to meet with local artists, craftsmen and midwives.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content" id="story-continues-9">Ms. Moro’s performance included asking women at various stops to embroider patterns on her wedding dress. Ms. Bacca would meet with the midwives and wash their feet. “It was to honor their profession, which is to bring life into being,” Ms. Moro said.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">En route they would document their experiences by taking photographs, keeping diaries and recording video.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">A video on YouTube shows the “brides” getting ready for their trip at a party at the Casa Morigi, a cultural space in Milan. The two women dress to the accompaniment of an accordion player, then descend to the street, laughing excitedly, to bid their goodbyes to friends and well-wishers. Rice is thrown, and the two take off on motorcycles, the only segment of the trip with planned transportation.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">“In every country, including Turkey, we hitched rides with amazing people, from students to farmers to businessmen,” Ms. Moro said. “Some offered us lunch. Others didn’t even ask why we were dressed like that; they didn’t even care.”</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">The two artists planned to wrap up their journey sometime in May with a performance in a public space in Tel Aviv, where they would ceremonially wash the two wedding dresses, as they periodically did on the trip. “We were going to wash away the traces of war, to cancel them,” Ms. Moro said.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">The final act of “Brides on Tour” was to have been an exhibition this November at the Byblos art gallery in Verona, Italy, where the wedding dresses would be displayed with mementos and photographs from the trip.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">Ms. Moro said she still hoped to take to the road to finish the performance. “Otherwise it would be a failure, and I don’t want the message to fail,” she said.</p>
<p class="story-body-text story-content">“I am not disowning the project,” she added firmly. “This tragedy only highlights how difficult peaceful relations are and how much work there is still to do.”</p>
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<p class="story-body-text story-content">Just 50 years earlier, the NYT was reporting that the Muslim Brotherhood was a fascist organisation. Yet that too was thrown down the memory hole.</p> Paul, It's self-censorship wh…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-15:3766518:Comment:1664972015-05-15T12:50:56.250ZPhilip Smeetonhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PhilipSmeeton
<p>Paul, It's self-censorship which is worst, people dare not even react anymore.</p>
<p>Paul, It's self-censorship which is worst, people dare not even react anymore.</p> Right you are Alan. I am not…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-13:3766518:Comment:1665872015-05-13T20:06:53.430ZPhilip Smeetonhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PhilipSmeeton
<p>Right you are Alan. I am not a professional and I find almost everything and everyone to be annoying or incompetent.</p>
<p>My party(Frp.) is under attack now because they dare to suggest that thousands of Eritreans can now be sent home because the conditions in Eritrea are no longer threatening. There is no longer any reason for them not to go back. None of them want to go back and everyone seems to be scrambling to find reasons not to send them back. From my point of view they and everyone…</p>
<p>Right you are Alan. I am not a professional and I find almost everything and everyone to be annoying or incompetent.</p>
<p>My party(Frp.) is under attack now because they dare to suggest that thousands of Eritreans can now be sent home because the conditions in Eritrea are no longer threatening. There is no longer any reason for them not to go back. None of them want to go back and everyone seems to be scrambling to find reasons not to send them back. From my point of view they and everyone like them are in breach of contract. Refugee/asylum status, I thought, was only meant to be temporary.</p>
<p>I am an angry old man. But it suits me to be so. And I'm going to get a lot angrier.</p>
<p>How can Christians be so thickheaded and suicidal that their main political agenda is to import large numbers of Muslim refugees?</p> Hi Philip,
I agree that those…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-12:3766518:Comment:1666642015-05-12T17:06:04.516ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Hi Philip,</p>
<p>I agree that those institutions are equally annoying, but I think there's a subtle distinction to be made. The delinquent institutions in this forum are ones assigned a certain role in order to protect society, and they are not carrying out that specific role. The Cyclops Watchmen aren't just those institutions we disagree with politically, they are ones that are failing in their assigned primary responsibilities - and that can be judged objectively by anyone, Left or…</p>
<p>Hi Philip,</p>
<p>I agree that those institutions are equally annoying, but I think there's a subtle distinction to be made. The delinquent institutions in this forum are ones assigned a certain role in order to protect society, and they are not carrying out that specific role. The Cyclops Watchmen aren't just those institutions we disagree with politically, they are ones that are failing in their assigned primary responsibilities - and that can be judged objectively by anyone, Left or Right.</p>
<p>In the case of the EU, they are not assigned the role of protecting national sovereignity. The UNHCR is assigned the role of protecting refugees, not the populations of Western countries. The Norwegian Christian Democrats, for all I know, could state one of their jobs to be humanitarian relief, etc.</p> Add the European Union to thi…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-12:3766518:Comment:1665772015-05-12T07:28:27.577ZPhilip Smeetonhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PhilipSmeeton
<p>Add the European Union to this list, for removing national sovereignty. And the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR). for their policy of replacing populations in Western countries.</p>
<p>Then there are political parties like the Norwegian christian democrats (Krf.) whose only agenda appears to be to import as many Muslims as possible, for humanitarian reasons. Then every Left-wing organisation that supports the Palestinians and denounces Israel for the crime of existing…</p>
<p>Add the European Union to this list, for removing national sovereignty. And the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR). for their policy of replacing populations in Western countries.</p>
<p>Then there are political parties like the Norwegian christian democrats (Krf.) whose only agenda appears to be to import as many Muslims as possible, for humanitarian reasons. Then every Left-wing organisation that supports the Palestinians and denounces Israel for the crime of existing and thriving, and defending itself.</p>
<p>On that subject it is also a crime for Europeans to defend their own particular national homeland's identity. (nationalism, patriotism).</p>