The Death of Democracy - collected articles - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-29T15:05:30Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/francis-fukuyama-v-samuel-huntingdon-who-wins-by-alamgir-hussain?groupUrl=argumentation&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A197800&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A1677&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThere is no place for empathy…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-09-18:3766518:Comment:2791612023-09-18T08:55:10.093ZPhilip Smeetonhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PhilipSmeeton
<p>There is no place for empathy and charity in my world.</p>
<p>There is no place for empathy and charity in my world.</p> You are right of course. But…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-09-18:3766518:Comment:2795582023-09-18T08:53:12.643ZPhilip Smeetonhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PhilipSmeeton
<p>You are right of course. But then democracy like socialism becomes no longer useful. We have the best form of democracy right now (proportional representation) and that has only led us into weak leadership, mass-immigration, destructive moralizing, woke, lunacy and fanatics. Where the majority is bullied into giving away its natural rights to any totally undeserving minority that claims to have been discriminated.</p>
<p>That leaves us with the longing for a strong leader that will fix it…</p>
<p>You are right of course. But then democracy like socialism becomes no longer useful. We have the best form of democracy right now (proportional representation) and that has only led us into weak leadership, mass-immigration, destructive moralizing, woke, lunacy and fanatics. Where the majority is bullied into giving away its natural rights to any totally undeserving minority that claims to have been discriminated.</p>
<p>That leaves us with the longing for a strong leader that will fix it all. My beliefs and actions are based purely on what is best for me and mine and hatred for everything that threatens my wellbeing. I support that which most agrees with me.</p> I'm sorry but I don't think i…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-09-17:3766518:Comment:2794592023-09-17T23:53:34.307ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>I'm sorry but I don't think it will work nowadays. The modern Western generation that has grown up and is now in middle age, is too decadent, cowardly, weak and irresponsible to even give reasonable answers in the 'Direct Democracy' model you are proposing. Just like in the US now, they will just vote themselves more money (i.e. entitlements) with it funded by debt based instruments. </p>
<p>I'm sorry but I don't think it will work nowadays. The modern Western generation that has grown up and is now in middle age, is too decadent, cowardly, weak and irresponsible to even give reasonable answers in the 'Direct Democracy' model you are proposing. Just like in the US now, they will just vote themselves more money (i.e. entitlements) with it funded by debt based instruments. </p> Take a look at the last 4 tho…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-09-14:3766518:Comment:2793602023-09-14T18:50:12.470ZPhilip Smeetonhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PhilipSmeeton
<p>Take a look at the last 4 thousand years of human society, globally, and how they functioned. Compare it to how our understanding has developed. Religion invented answers to what we endevoured to understand. We were not stupid, just ignorant. The technology was cutting edge for its time. the beauty of the tools and weapons and other remains testifies to past achievements. Humans have long been what we are now, in most ways.<br></br> Lately knowledge and technology has accelerated and our…</p>
<p>Take a look at the last 4 thousand years of human society, globally, and how they functioned. Compare it to how our understanding has developed. Religion invented answers to what we endevoured to understand. We were not stupid, just ignorant. The technology was cutting edge for its time. the beauty of the tools and weapons and other remains testifies to past achievements. Humans have long been what we are now, in most ways.<br/> Lately knowledge and technology has accelerated and our knowledge is vast. So what is Democracy and what is its value? We have to decide that ourselves. To me democracy should be; the first requirement is a functioning society, a country of say 50 million people that are as like each other as possible that share a common identity, culture and sense of purpose. Multiculty will not function, there has to be law and order and a means to defend the nation.<br/> Then the country could be governed by referendums on national issues, with elected officials given the task of implementing the will of the majority on every issue of national importance. The will of the people, defined by majorities, where every adult has his say in debate and by vote.</p> In what would have been incon…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-09-13:3766518:Comment:2793592023-09-13T12:15:49.182ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<blockquote>In what would have been inconceivable ten years ago, many long for a dictator to rescue them from “democracy,” which operates as neoliberal totalitarianism coated with a veneer of identity politics.</blockquote>
<p>Sloppy writing. It's a neo-liberal totalitarianism, yes, but running on a backbone of identity politics - the new racism. "Coated with a veneer" my arse.</p>
<blockquote>Many “socially functional” citizens drink puddle water cocktails infused with mental meds and digital…</blockquote>
<blockquote>In what would have been inconceivable ten years ago, many long for a dictator to rescue them from “democracy,” which operates as neoliberal totalitarianism coated with a veneer of identity politics.</blockquote>
<p>Sloppy writing. It's a neo-liberal totalitarianism, yes, but running on a backbone of identity politics - the new racism. "Coated with a veneer" my arse.</p>
<blockquote>Many “socially functional” citizens drink puddle water cocktails infused with mental meds and digital distraction to keep from offing themselves.</blockquote>
<p>More sloppy writing. It's a shame because the overall intent of the article deserves pursuing.</p>
<blockquote>Whatever the managerial racial makeup, citizen-serfs, regardless of origin, would continue their downward spiral into barcode slavery and poverty.</blockquote>
I gave up at this point. The poor writing plus the heart string pulling videos, just remove any sense of credibility. Comment from Antony:
If US De…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-09-13:3766518:Comment:2795562023-09-13T12:15:02.054ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Comment from Antony:</p>
<p>If US Democracy Is Dead (Not That It Ever Existed)- What Potential Forms of Dictatorship Come Next? ; <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.unz.com/article/if-us-democracy-is-dead-not-that-it-ever-existed-what-potential-forms-of-dictatorship-come-next/" target="_blank">https://www.unz.com/article/if-us-democracy-is-dead-not-that-it-eve...</a></p>
<p>Comment from Antony:</p>
<p>If US Democracy Is Dead (Not That It Ever Existed)- What Potential Forms of Dictatorship Come Next? ; <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.unz.com/article/if-us-democracy-is-dead-not-that-it-ever-existed-what-potential-forms-of-dictatorship-come-next/" target="_blank">https://www.unz.com/article/if-us-democracy-is-dead-not-that-it-eve...</a></p> tag:4freedoms.com,2021-07-12:3766518:Comment:2724872021-07-12T15:37:47.106ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8qhybRpTllI?wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8qhybRpTllI?wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe> Trouble is that the globalism…tag:4freedoms.com,2021-04-19:3766518:Comment:2720902021-04-19T21:27:42.359ZPhilip Smeetonhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PhilipSmeeton
<p>Trouble is that the globalism is not based on Merit! We can only hope that in the long run those best equipped for survival will win out and the garbage will rot out of existence. We are governed by darwinism so we will evolve into something that no ideology can plan for.</p>
<p>Trouble is that the globalism is not based on Merit! We can only hope that in the long run those best equipped for survival will win out and the garbage will rot out of existence. We are governed by darwinism so we will evolve into something that no ideology can plan for.</p> Our only hope was the homogen…tag:4freedoms.com,2021-04-19:3766518:Comment:2720882021-04-19T12:30:10.033ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<blockquote>Our only hope was the homogenous national racistic state; this is now ceasing to be a possibility due to the globalist ideal of a united humanity without limitation</blockquote>
<p>Absolutely. We were sold a croc - the idea of a non-tribal egalitarian meritocracy. It sounds great at first, but it fails due to the common political problem of the unintended consequences of nice ideas.</p>
<blockquote>Our only hope was the homogenous national racistic state; this is now ceasing to be a possibility due to the globalist ideal of a united humanity without limitation</blockquote>
<p>Absolutely. We were sold a croc - the idea of a non-tribal egalitarian meritocracy. It sounds great at first, but it fails due to the common political problem of the unintended consequences of nice ideas.</p> My take on this is that the a…tag:4freedoms.com,2021-04-19:3766518:Comment:2720852021-04-19T06:49:58.271ZPhilip Smeetonhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PhilipSmeeton
<p>My take on this is that the advance of technology is changing the world. Like the aircraft; it is now extremely easy for almost anyone to move to almost anywhere in the world. And countries ruled by the principle of brotherly love will allow large numbers of these travellers to settle permanently, take with them their own culture and attitudes and criminals and behave literally in any way that they choose.<br></br> Add to this that the human population of the world continues to grow; every…</p>
<p>My take on this is that the advance of technology is changing the world. Like the aircraft; it is now extremely easy for almost anyone to move to almost anywhere in the world. And countries ruled by the principle of brotherly love will allow large numbers of these travellers to settle permanently, take with them their own culture and attitudes and criminals and behave literally in any way that they choose.<br/> Add to this that the human population of the world continues to grow; every resource will be exhausted eventually. Nature is shrinking and species are being exterminated. Vast numbers of these surplus human beings are ignorant, superstitious or criminal and will remain so. <br/> Our only hope was the homogenous national racistic state; this is now ceasing to be a possibility due to the globalist ideal of a united humanity without limitation.<br/> Human beings are what they are and as things collapse violence will increase and instead of a golden promised future we are heading towards global dystopia. The population growth is unsustainable and will release a very real apocolypse.</p>