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The news tells me that the weather in England is atrocious but this should warm things up somewhat.

 

After the gathering in Paris, and now this, could the tide be turning?

 

It is now time for smart politicians to get on with it, and deny that they ever were politically correct.

Whey hey! This is great. Someone is identifying these people for what they are. Congratulations Germany. Let's get writing to our spineless politicians. And let's congratulate Germany for its stand.



Danny Jeffrey said:

The news tells me that the weather in England is atrocious but this should warm things up somewhat.

 

After the gathering in Paris, and now this, could the tide be turning?

 

It is now time for smart politicians to get on with it, and deny that they ever were politically correct.

 

 Great news, its a start and at the very least should start some sort of debate. the conference in Paris was a great event, trouble is the media have ignored it. I,ve tried posting a comment on the BBC Newsnight page, but my comment dosn,t seem to have made it past the moderators???

What I said about it being the time for smart politicians to mend their ways applies equally well to those in the medial. They can only hold back the truth for so long. For the longest time it was just Geert Wilders, the EDL and people like myself who were speaking up but, the change has begun. The things said in Paris will not soon be forgotten. Because of that meeting of the minds, more believers joined our ranks, and new laws,regarding the Muslims, are being written every day,  and every day  more influential people are speaking out.

 

Paul, you know as well as I that sooner or later there is going to be hell to pay and the sooner the better, before their numbers vastly increase. The Muslims have made a mistake and because of their error they will lose in this conflict. They should have been nice and quiet for another 20 years before they made their move. Then they would have had us on the ropes and would have won, but they could not wait. The evil things they were taught as children simply will not let them behave as a civilized people. Because of that, these people who are so fond of cutting off heads, have cut their own throats.

paul collings said:



Danny Jeffrey said:

The news tells me that the weather in England is atrocious but this should warm things up somewhat.

 

After the gathering in Paris, and now this, could the tide be turning?

 

It is now time for smart politicians to get on with it, and deny that they ever were politically correct.

 

Great news, its a start and at the very least should start some sort of debate. the conference in Paris was a great event, trouble is the media have ignored it. I,ve tried posting a comment on the BBC Newsnight page, but my comment dosn,t seem to have made it past the moderators???

The good thing is that it's going to be harder to label people 'Islamophobic' when Germany is using anti nazi laws against them.

Danny Jeffrey said:

The news tells me that the weather in England is atrocious but this should warm things up somewhat.

 

After the gathering in Paris, and now this, could the tide be turning?

 

It is now time for smart politicians to get on with it, and deny that they ever were politically correct.

  I agree with you there, they definitly showed their hand too early.  it is us who have learned the truth who now need to take the fight forward. our media need to made far more accountable in the future. Allowing our media to be hijacked by the left (our politicians)  has kept good people from the truth. The web is really starting to come into its own now, we are seeing the truth. our media need to realise that and start doing that which they are employed to do, And report the facts.

    AS you rightly say, all this needs to happen while we have numbers on our side.  

    Just a quick question Danny, was there any mention of the Paris event on any US stations.?

If we could just get rid of Ibrahim Hooper and his terrorist thugs this way our country would be in better shape.

Who's Ibrahim Hooper Tom?

Tom Hough said:

If we could just get rid of Ibrahim Hooper and his terrorist thugs this way our country would be in better shape.

None that I heard. If it was mentioned it was probably by Fox but I didn't catch it if so. Glenn Beck will probably mention it today. If I hear anything I will get back to you.



paul collings said:

I agree with you there, they definitly showed their hand too early.  it is us who have learned the truth who now need to take the fight forward. our media need to made far more accountable in the future. Allowing our media to be hijacked by the left (our politicians)  has kept good people from the truth. The web is really starting to come into its own now, we are seeing the truth. our media need to realise that and start doing that which they are employed to do, And report the facts.

AS you rightly say, all this needs to happen while we have numbers on our side.

Just a quick question Danny, was there any mention of the Paris event on any US stations.?



Pat McCrann said:

Who's Ibrahim Hooper Tom?

 

I think hes that bloke from cair. he got mentioned during the paris speech.
Tom Hough said:

If we could just get rid of Ibrahim Hooper and his terrorist thugs this way our country would be in better shape.


 Thanks for that, my computor is being really slow, can,t seem to access anything. think i have to give it the once over.
Danny Jeffrey said:

None that I heard. If it was mentioned it was probably by Fox but I didn't catch it if so. Glenn Beck will probably mention it today. If I hear anything I will get back to you.



paul collings said:

I agree with you there, they definitly showed their hand too early.  it is us who have learned the truth who now need to take the fight forward. our media need to made far more accountable in the future. Allowing our media to be hijacked by the left (our politicians)  has kept good people from the truth. The web is really starting to come into its own now, we are seeing the truth. our media need to realise that and start doing that which they are employed to do, And report the facts.

AS you rightly say, all this needs to happen while we have numbers on our side.

Just a quick question Danny, was there any mention of the Paris event on any US stations.?

Here's the whole nine yards on Ibaham Hooper

 

http://www.investigativeproject.org/profile/168

Pat McCrann said:

Who's Ibrahim Hooper Tom?

Tom Hough said:

If we could just get rid of Ibrahim Hooper and his terrorist thugs this way our country would be in better shape.

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