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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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 what an arse, he.s got his own personal jihad on the go. Bet he pleads the 1st while trying to stop anyone saying a thing against Islam.

Oh thank god! For once a glimmer of hope on the horizon,youve made my day with that news.Just maybe we may be able to stop this cancer before europe turns into a giant kosovo.

Danny Jeffrey said:

What I said about it being the time for smart politicians to mend their ways applies equally well to those in the medial. They can only hold back the truth for so long. For the longest time it was just Geert Wilders, the EDL and people like myself who were speaking up but, the change has begun. The things said in Paris will not soon be forgotten. Because of that meeting of the minds, more believers joined our ranks, and new laws,regarding the Muslims, are being written every day,  and every day  more influential people are speaking out.


Paul, you know as well as I that sooner or later there is going to be hell to pay and the sooner the better, before their numbers vastly increase. The Muslims have made a mistake and because of their error they will lose in this conflict. They should have been nice and quiet for another 20 years before they made their move. Then they would have had us on the ropes and would have won, but they could not wait. The evil things they were taught as children simply will not let them behave as a civilized people. Because of that, these people who are so fond of cutting off heads, have cut their own throats.

paul collings said:

Danny Jeffrey said:

The news tells me that the weather in England is atrocious but this should warm things up somewhat.


After the gathering in Paris, and now this, could the tide be turning?


It is now time for smart politicians to get on with it, and deny that they ever were politically correct.


Great news, its a start and at the very least should start some sort of debate. the conference in Paris was a great event, trouble is the media have ignored it. I,ve tried posting a comment on the BBC Newsnight page, but my comment dosn,t seem to have made it past the moderators???

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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