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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Terror has again struck Paris, France, Friday, 13 November 2015. The latest count is 129 dead and many more injured.

After the three days of mourning the State of France will kick into gear and respond to, as François Hollande, the President of France, has said: ‘the war that has been declared on the nation.’

What form should that response take?

We suggest here a few starter points.

First of all, there needs to be a recognition that Islam inspires terrorism.

There is much talk about ISIS being the source of terrorism. But it needs to be recognised that ISIS is just the latest manifestation of Islamic-inspired terrorism. Since the torture and beheading of Jews and other non-Muslims during the life of Mohammed, terrorism has always accompanied Islam’s march out of the Arab peninsula and into the rest of the world.

‘Our many problems with Islam cannot be explained by poverty, repression or the European colonial past, as the Left claims. Nor does it have anything to do with Palestinians or American troops in Iraq. The problem is Islam itself.’ Geert Wilders

Trying to protect every restaurant, theatre, sports facility etc. from terrorist attacks is like looking through a telescope backwards. We need look at and deal with the source of terrorism as a first step.

Furthermore, there needs to be a recognition that:

1. All Muslims uphold the perfection of Mohammed as a model of behaviour for all people throughout all time. All Muslims point to Mohammed as the ideal man.

2. The enemy is not just at the gate but is within the walls of the castle. The terrorists and their supporters are not just on their way to Europe they are here and have been here for generations.

3. It must be within the capabilities of any robust nation state to defend its citizens from terrorism. For sure, the France of old, that is the France that resisted and survived Nazism, could do it. We must believe that that same spirit and the strength is still there within countless souls and communities of France to do it again.

4. The influence of Islam to inspire terror, of course, finds its most ready acolytes in Muslims. Can France, indeed can any nation-State, work to reduce the influence of Islam on its citizens in general and on Muslims in particular?

The answer must be ‘Yes.’ The terrorists killed their victims in order to traumatise and bully the survivors, including the leaders; the purpose of which is to make France more sharia compliant. So far the political process in France has failed its people. ‘Standing firm and refusing to change’ is obviously not working.

The present and future victims of terrorism (and their families and the nation) deserve not only a response without mercy but a response that is long lasting and destructive of the roots of terrorism itself.

May the 129 rest in peace, and may the 2.2 million still alive in Paris live in peace.

EDL Writing Team

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Sam Harris ; still sleepwalking to armageddon ;

NSS media roundup of the Paris attacks ;

Islam AND Muslims are the problem. We cannot have Muslims living in our countries at all, because we cannot distinguish between those that are friendly and those that are not, Islam is not friendly it is directly hostile. So forget all of the nonsense about human rights, the demand has to be renounce Islam or leave, there is no other way to protect our way of life and our persons in our own homes and homelands. Islam has to be banned and banished.

Non seulement l'État et la police ne peuvent et ne feront rien pour empêcher tout nouvel acte terroriste (le pourraient-il qu'ils auraient empêché celui du 13 novembre), mais il ne pourront jamais éradiquer l'État Islamique en larguant quelques bombinettes dans le désert.
L'unique solution est d'autoriser la population française (et uniquement les Français qui ressemblent extérieurement et intérieurement à des Français) à acquérir des armes à feu, et ce sans avoir à obtenir de licence ou fournir de justificatifs à n'en plus finir, et surtout à les porter sur soi dans l'espace public.
Si le port d'arme était ainsi autorisé en France, jamais le terrorisme ne pourrait y mener ses actions. Parce que l'État a confisqué la sécurité (pour son seul profit) de chaque citoyen, il met précisément en jeu celle-ci à chaque instant. L'État et le gouvernement sont co-responsables, avec les terroristes, de la mort et des blessures infligées aux Français le 13 novembre 2015...

Not only the state and the police can and will do nothing to prevent any new terrorist act (the could it be that they would have prevented the one of 13 November), But he can never eradicate the Islamic State in dropping a few bombinettes in the desert.
The only solution is to allow the French population (and only the French that resemble externally and internally to French) to acquire firearms, and this without having to obtain license or provide evidence to no end, and especially To wear them on itself in public space.
If the port of weapon was thus allowed in France, never terrorism could lead his actions. Because the state has confiscated the security (for his sole benefit) of each citizen, it is precisely in play it at every moment. The State and the government are co-responsible, with terrorists, death and injuries inflicted on French on 13 November 2015...


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

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