Is this the end times? - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-28T12:19:03Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/is-this-the-end-times?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A33178&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noKinana said:
re Ali Sina
ht…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-01-01:3766518:Comment:331782011-01-01T14:36:10.000Zpaul collingshttp://4freedoms.com/profile/paulcollings
<br></br><br></br><cite>Kinana said:</cite>
<blockquote><div><p>re Ali Sina</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/">http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/</a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider both, pleading and bullying, signs…</span></p>
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<br/><br/><cite>Kinana said:</cite>
<blockquote><div><p>re Ali Sina</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/">http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/</a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider both, pleading and bullying, signs of<br/>psychopathology. <em style="background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-xg-p: initial initial; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Argumentum ad baculum</span></em> and <em style="background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-xg-p: initial initial; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">argumentum ad<br/>misericordiam </span></em>are both logical fallacies.</span></p>
<p style="padding-bottom: 15px; background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; padding-right: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; padding-top: 0px; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-xg-p: initial initial;"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">If you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as a bully or as a victim, <strong style="background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-xg-p: initial initial; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">disprove my charges against Muhammad logically. </span></strong>Not only will I remove the<br/>site, I will publicly announce that Islam is a true religion. I will also pay</span></span></p>
<p style="padding-bottom: 15px; background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; padding-right: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; padding-top: 0px; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-xg-p: initial initial;"><span><strong style="background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-xg-p: initial initial; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">$50,000 U.S. dollars</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="padding-bottom: 15px; background-color: transparent; margin: 0px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; padding-right: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; padding-top: 0px; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-xg-p: initial initial;"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">to anyone who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:....</span></span></p>
<p>I believe this site and your money are safe Kinana. The words and deeds of muhammad are there for all to see. we donot live in ignorant times anymore. more and more people have access to information that allows them to make choice,s. Who given the choice would want to beat themselfs up. Anyway to be a muslim you have to believe the word of muhhamad. They can,t call him a liar so they can,t disprove the allegations against him. its a paradox for them. i am hung over but that is right. happy new year.</p>
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</blockquote> Thanks Kinana. I didn't real…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-01-01:3766518:Comment:331722011-01-01T13:40:28.000ZPat McCrannhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PatMcCrann
<p><br></br> Thanks Kinana. I didn't realise Ali Sina was behind faithfreedom.org</p>
<p><br></br> <cite>Kinana said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.ning.com/forum/topics/is-this-the-end-times?xg_source=activity#3766518Comment33164"><div><p>re Ali Sina</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/">http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/</a></p>
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<p><br/> Thanks Kinana. I didn't realise Ali Sina was behind faithfreedom.org</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Kinana said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.ning.com/forum/topics/is-this-the-end-times?xg_source=activity#3766518Comment33164"><div><p>re Ali Sina</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/">http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/</a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider both, pleading and bullying, signs of<br/>
psychopathology. <em style="outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Argumentum ad baculum</span></em> and <em style="outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">argumentum ad<br/>
misericordiam </span></em>are both logical fallacies.</span></p>
<p style="padding: 0px 0px 15px; outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; margin: 0px;"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">If you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as a bully or as a victim, <strong style="outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">disprove my charges against Muhammad logically. </span></strong>Not only will I remove the<br/>
site, I will publicly announce that Islam is a true religion. I will also pay</span></span></p>
<p style="padding: 0px 0px 15px; outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; margin: 0px;"><span><strong style="outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">$50,000 U.S. dollars</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="padding: 0px 0px 15px; outline-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; margin: 0px;"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">to anyone who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:....</span></span></p>
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http://www.fait…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-01-01:3766518:Comment:331642011-01-01T13:28:52.000ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>re Ali Sina</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/">http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/</a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0cm; margin-bottom: .0001pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider both, pleading and bullying, signs of
psychopathology. …</span></p>
<p>re Ali Sina</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/">http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/the-challenge/</a></p>
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<p style="margin: 0cm; margin-bottom: .0001pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who sometimes beg me, and sometimes
order me to remove this site. I consider both, pleading and bullying, signs of<br />
psychopathology. <em style="outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-xg-p: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Argumentum ad baculum</span></em> and <em style="outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-xg-p: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">argumentum ad<br />
misericordiam </span></em>are both logical fallacies.</span></p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-xg-p: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">If you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as a bully or as a victim, <strong style="outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-xg-p: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">disprove my charges
against Muhammad logically. </span></strong>Not only will I remove the<br />
site, I will publicly announce that Islam is a true religion. I will also pay</span></span></p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-xg-p: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;"><span><strong style="outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-xg-p: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">$50,000 U.S. dollars</span></strong></span></p>
<p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-xg-p: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;">to anyone who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad
of being:....</span></span></p>
<p></p> I think actually Catholicism…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-01-01:3766518:Comment:331542011-01-01T13:19:58.000ZPat McCrannhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PatMcCrann
I think actually Catholicism is growing faster, although not of course in the West. It's important people understand that Islam really is collapsing and only its birth rate (due to polygamy) is keeping it going. It's an important piece of info., because muslims are emboldened by the idea that it's growing. I haven't heard of Ali Sina, but will do a google search.<br></br>
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<cite>Kinana said:…</cite><br></br>
I think actually Catholicism is growing faster, although not of course in the West. It's important people understand that Islam really is collapsing and only its birth rate (due to polygamy) is keeping it going. It's an important piece of info., because muslims are emboldened by the idea that it's growing. I haven't heard of Ali Sina, but will do a google search.<br/>
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<cite>Kinana said:</cite><br/>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.ning.com/forum/topics/is-this-the-end-times?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A33152&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3766518Comment33152"><div><p>it is significant if Al jazeera is saying this. Ali Sina speaks of Islam collapsing from within because Muslims see the truth of islam and reject it.</p>
<p>it is certainly a different spin from Muslims telling me that islam is the fast growing religion in the world.</p>
<p>whatever is the truth, this crisis and struggle will outlast our individual lives, so for me, 'end times' or not, there is much work to do and this report from AJ offers some (more) hope to cling to.</p>
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</blockquote> it is significant if Al jazee…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-01-01:3766518:Comment:331522011-01-01T13:12:40.000ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>it is significant if Al jazeera is saying this. Ali Sina speaks of Islam collapsing from within because Muslims see the truth of islam and reject it.</p>
<p>it is certainly a different spin from Muslims telling me that islam is the fast growing religion in the world.</p>
<p>whatever is the truth, this crisis and struggle will outlast our individual lives, so for me, 'end times' or not, there is much work to do and this report from AJ offers some (more) hope to cling to.</p>
<p>it is significant if Al jazeera is saying this. Ali Sina speaks of Islam collapsing from within because Muslims see the truth of islam and reject it.</p>
<p>it is certainly a different spin from Muslims telling me that islam is the fast growing religion in the world.</p>
<p>whatever is the truth, this crisis and struggle will outlast our individual lives, so for me, 'end times' or not, there is much work to do and this report from AJ offers some (more) hope to cling to.</p> Oi'll get back to you on thi…tag:4freedoms.com,2010-12-31:3766518:Comment:331332010-12-31T21:50:46.000ZPat McCrannhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PatMcCrann
<p><br></br> Oi'll get back to you on this Paul. Just you watch. Suffice to say for the moment that the Bible stands apart from paganism, which is the human search for God. The Bible is God's definitive reply. The confirmation of that isn't to be found in philosophy or even theology but in the Bible's own authority, but awareness of that authority requires familiarity with the Bible,just as a relationship with God requires prayer,both of which of course socialist progressives have worked very hard…</p>
<p><br/> Oi'll get back to you on this Paul. Just you watch. Suffice to say for the moment that the Bible stands apart from paganism, which is the human search for God. The Bible is God's definitive reply. The confirmation of that isn't to be found in philosophy or even theology but in the Bible's own authority, but awareness of that authority requires familiarity with the Bible,just as a relationship with God requires prayer,both of which of course socialist progressives have worked very hard to subvert.They know what they are doing. Think about that.</p>
<p>They don't subvert paganism, least of all its most wicked manifestation, Islam. They have no problem with extreme ideas of 'morality' whether socailist or Islamic. Just with the Biblical idea of morality. Why? Because they know their enemy and that enemy is Judaeo-Christianity, as was Hitler's, Stalin's, et al. Even a vague familiarity with the Bible is a familiarity with objective goodness and truth, which is precisely why many prefer to reject it.The idea that the world just created itself, including intelligence, mind, is ridiculous and should be named as being so. As for all religions being a vague grasping in the dark, well no, I think the Bible, to those who know it, refutes that, and our culture is built on that. Whereas the bloody French Revolution, and the socialist revolution,. were built on the so called 'Enlightenment'. It actually goes back to nominalism in the 13th century Paul, which is why we need to rebuild the educational curriculum.Look up 'classical education' and you'll know what I mean.</p>
<p>And for that rebuilding, as Steven Patrick reminded me, there's going to necessarily be a bit of clearing, a bit of sharp pruning going on. What happened to the Jews (it really means us) when they forgot God? As far as I'm concerned we have failed to defend our 'values' in the last few years, and we are going to have to pay a very heavy price. We have forgotten the author of Goodness and Truth and he has left us to our freedom. We may very well have lost his protection. But it is not too late.</p>
<p>I challenge you Paul and anyone else to spend a few moments thinking in your heart of what most deeply concerns you, and then open the Bible on any page. Any page whatsoever. The very words your eyes fall on will be a very direct word spoken to you by the God who formed you in the womb. And remember this. It's easy to be good. The Ten Commandments are no big deal. They're simply a very good summing up of natural law - an agreement of the ground rules between God and us.</p>
<p>'My yoke is easy and my burden is light'.We should love that. And yet we hate it.</p>
<p>Even the devil knows God. All God asks is a relationship.</p>
<p>So God bless us all x</p>
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<p><cite>paul collings said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.ning.com/forum/topics/is-this-the-end-times?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A33127&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3766518Comment33127"><div><p> </p>
<p> The end of times, is a big subject, many different peoples have forcast the end of mankind and the earth, at many different times in our history. The Myans, the Greeks, the Romans, the Hebrews, icas, american indians, Christians, jews. buddists, Islam. We all know the storys even if we can,t remember exactly where they came from and who said them.</p>
<p> What we have going on in the world is a massive power struggle between, idology, religion, ways of life, and we are coming to a point where people in power are positioning their pawns. The game is afoot, the stratergy is known only to afew.</p>
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<p> So what do people do when they do not understand what is happening. In the past people would invent idols to ask,sun gods, rain gods, gods of the sea, gods of the land,ect, every body had a god.</p>
<p> Things didn,t always workout though even with a god, no matter how many sacrifice,s you made, crops died, people died, and civiliations died, of cause some always servived and they took their storys will them. Storys about the end of things as we knew them, it is storys about the end of times that fascinate people, the end is nigh has been preached for centries. </p>
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<p> It is an understanding that all things come to an end that these storys portray, trying to find a prophacy that fits the bill to explain our end is something people have been trying to do for a long time, as a way of proving gods existence.</p>
<p> Jesus gave six signs to look for, and other prophets gave a few more. But i think jesus said we wouldn,t know of his second coming, or wouldn,t recognise the end of the age. i,m rambling,, some one correct me if i,m wrong. anyway the main point of all end of time prophercy,s, is, you can find them if you look and interperate them to fit the times you live in.</p>
<p> If you want to use the Hebrew dates for end of times. it should be in the seventh milinium, their calender started about 5770 yrs ago, so we have a couple of hundred yrs left. Again thats not exact, but itcould be we,ve entered into the last phase of end times. Its all open to interprertation.</p>
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<p> So is it end of days time. Who know,s. What i am sure of is we are at a cross roads, a cross roads with no clear signs. What path shall we take?, If we take the wrong path our way of life will be GONE FOREVER, Make no mistake, if we allow islam to move into our world and take over, the world will enter into darkness, Is that the Biblical discription of end times. Maybe its close enough, you don,t have to be religious to see the dangers, its just that religious people were normally learned people and were able to record such warnings, signs, however you want view things.</p>
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<p> OUR way of live is under threat, if islam becomes the dominant force in the world, the blood letting will be on a scale never before known to mankind. it will truley be of Biblical proportion,s. They will kill the non beleivers then they will start killing each other, the koran is a book of vile hatered, and they argue to the death about how to interpret it. When they control our lands they will have our weopens, our resourses, The end of times. The end of our time maybe. Six million converted to christianity,.. !. 1.2 billion to go. And how does that help us when people in this country are leaving christianity in their droves. Our faith seems to be descerting us. (old war dogs posting )</p>
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</blockquote> Hi Steven, no you weren't bei…tag:4freedoms.com,2010-12-31:3766518:Comment:331302010-12-31T20:40:10.000ZPat McCrannhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PatMcCrann
<p>Hi Steven, no you weren't being rude at all, and I know what you mean. There is so much to be done and so much to keep up with and I think that's why most people are burying their heads in the sand.But you're not and we're not. We're here. In my opinion that's because leaders need to emerge and they will and they are. Geert Wilders for example is a very courageous man, and there are others. All we have to do is stand beside them and hope in goodness and we will prevail because evil has to be…</p>
<p>Hi Steven, no you weren't being rude at all, and I know what you mean. There is so much to be done and so much to keep up with and I think that's why most people are burying their heads in the sand.But you're not and we're not. We're here. In my opinion that's because leaders need to emerge and they will and they are. Geert Wilders for example is a very courageous man, and there are others. All we have to do is stand beside them and hope in goodness and we will prevail because evil has to be kept up at great cost whereas hope and goodness spring eternal. As you can probably tell Oi've had my new year's glass of whisky. Oi'll be doing a couple of jigs round the old parlour in a minute.</p>
<p>We have to win Steven, so let's put on the old armour and sharpen our trusty blades. And yes some of us will get hurt, but we will anyway, so let's fight like bloody hell.</p>
<p>Here's to a very happy, peaceful and prosperous New Year Steven. And remember, the goodies always win in the end. <br/> <br/>
<cite>steven patrick said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.ning.com/forum/topics/is-this-the-end-times?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A33115&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3766518Comment33115"><div>Yes im sorry my answer seemed a little rude and defeatist but its hard to see the light sometimes through such a dark cloud.I realise alot of people have moved to the west to escape the horrors of sharia and its such a shame our goverments have aloud it to follow them to our shores,its about time we sorted the wheat from the chafe!!!<br/><blockquote><div> </div>
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The end of times, is a bi…tag:4freedoms.com,2010-12-31:3766518:Comment:331272010-12-31T18:15:46.000Zpaul collingshttp://4freedoms.com/profile/paulcollings
<p> </p>
<p> The end of times, is a big subject, many different peoples have forcast the end of mankind and the earth, at many different times in our history. The Myans, the Greeks, the Romans, the Hebrews, icas, american indians, Christians, jews. buddists, Islam. We all know the storys even if we can,t remember exactly where they came from and who said them.</p>
<p> What we have going on in the world is a massive power struggle between, idology, religion, ways of life, and we are coming…</p>
<p> </p>
<p> The end of times, is a big subject, many different peoples have forcast the end of mankind and the earth, at many different times in our history. The Myans, the Greeks, the Romans, the Hebrews, icas, american indians, Christians, jews. buddists, Islam. We all know the storys even if we can,t remember exactly where they came from and who said them.</p>
<p> What we have going on in the world is a massive power struggle between, idology, religion, ways of life, and we are coming to a point where people in power are positioning their pawns. The game is afoot, the stratergy is known only to afew.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> So what do people do when they do not understand what is happening. In the past people would invent idols to ask,sun gods, rain gods, gods of the sea, gods of the land,ect, every body had a god.</p>
<p> Things didn,t always workout though even with a god, no matter how many sacrifice,s you made, crops died, people died, and civiliations died, of cause some always servived and they took their storys will them. Storys about the end of things as we knew them, it is storys about the end of times that fascinate people, the end is nigh has been preached for centries. </p>
<p> </p>
<p> It is an understanding that all things come to an end that these storys portray, trying to find a prophacy that fits the bill to explain our end is something people have been trying to do for a long time, as a way of proving gods existence.</p>
<p> Jesus gave six signs to look for, and other prophets gave a few more. But i think jesus said we wouldn,t know of his second coming, or wouldn,t recognise the end of the age. i,m rambling,, some one correct me if i,m wrong. anyway the main point of all end of time prophercy,s, is, you can find them if you look and interperate them to fit the times you live in.</p>
<p> If you want to use the Hebrew dates for end of times. it should be in the seventh milinium, their calender started about 5770 yrs ago, so we have a couple of hundred yrs left. Again thats not exact, but itcould be we,ve entered into the last phase of end times. Its all open to interprertation.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> So is it end of days time. Who know,s. What i am sure of is we are at a cross roads, a cross roads with no clear signs. What path shall we take?, If we take the wrong path our way of life will be GONE FOREVER, Make no mistake, if we allow islam to move into our world and take over, the world will enter into darkness, Is that the Biblical discription of end times. Maybe its close enough, you don,t have to be religious to see the dangers, its just that religious people were normally learned people and were able to record such warnings, signs, however you want view things.</p>
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<p> OUR way of live is under threat, if islam becomes the dominant force in the world, the blood letting will be on a scale never before known to mankind. it will truley be of Biblical proportion,s. They will kill the non beleivers then they will start killing each other, the koran is a book of vile hatered, and they argue to the death about how to interpret it. When they control our lands they will have our weopens, our resourses, The end of times. The end of our time maybe. Six million converted to christianity,.. !. 1.2 billion to go. And how does that help us when people in this country are leaving christianity in their droves. Our faith seems to be descerting us. (old war dogs posting )</p>
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<p> </p> Yes im sorry my answer seemed…tag:4freedoms.com,2010-12-31:3766518:Comment:331152010-12-31T14:25:42.000Zsteven patrickhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/stevenpatrick
Yes im sorry my answer seemed a little rude and defeatist but its hard to see the light sometimes through such a dark cloud.I realise alot of people have moved to the west to escape the horrors of sharia and its such a shame our goverments have aloud it to follow them to our shores,its about time we sorted the wheat from the chafe!!!<br/>
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Yes im sorry my answer seemed a little rude and defeatist but its hard to see the light sometimes through such a dark cloud.I realise alot of people have moved to the west to escape the horrors of sharia and its such a shame our goverments have aloud it to follow them to our shores,its about time we sorted the wheat from the chafe!!!<br/>
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</blockquote> Steven, 6m a year converting…tag:4freedoms.com,2010-12-31:3766518:Comment:331072010-12-31T13:44:20.000ZPat McCrannhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PatMcCrann
Steven, 6m a year converting from Islam to Christianity is a massive number and unprecedented in history. Also you should remember that very probably many Muslims came here, the UK and the West, to get away from Islam. Unfortunately our political leaders aren't letting that happen, but they also are potential allies against the expansion of Islam if only we can get our political leaders on the back foot. It requires work and also optimism. Keep hold of your optimism. Goodness always prevails in…
Steven, 6m a year converting from Islam to Christianity is a massive number and unprecedented in history. Also you should remember that very probably many Muslims came here, the UK and the West, to get away from Islam. Unfortunately our political leaders aren't letting that happen, but they also are potential allies against the expansion of Islam if only we can get our political leaders on the back foot. It requires work and also optimism. Keep hold of your optimism. Goodness always prevails in the end. What we do decides whether it's sooner or later. <br/>
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