4 Freedoms - Key Frameworks - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-28T14:21:28Zhttp://4freedoms.com/group/argumentation/forum/topics/keyframeworks?feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe 4th Freedom, freedom from…tag:4freedoms.com,2017-10-23:3766518:Comment:1910212017-10-23T02:39:27.665ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>The 4th Freedom, freedom from inherited debt, was stipulated by Jefferson. He said that the government should be allowed to use debt for large construction projects and wars, but that no debt should last more than 20 years, since at that time, that was the average time between generations.</p>
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<p>The 4th Freedom, freedom from inherited debt, was stipulated by Jefferson. He said that the government should be allowed to use debt for large construction projects and wars, but that no debt should last more than 20 years, since at that time, that was the average time between generations.</p>
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<p>The 12 point plan to restore equal civil rights</p>
<p><a href="http://4freedoms.com/group/argumentation/forum/topics/keyframeworks?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A127602&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A1677" target="_blank">http://4freedoms.com/group/argumentation/forum/topics/keyframeworks...</a></p>
<p>misses out some obvious remedies like these:</p>
<p>(a) Make it illegal to recommend the execution of a person for leaving an ideology or group. Clearly, the 'death to apostates' rule in Islam…</p>
<p>The 12 point plan to restore equal civil rights</p>
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<p>misses out some obvious remedies like these:</p>
<p>(a) Make it illegal to recommend the execution of a person for leaving an ideology or group. Clearly, the 'death to apostates' rule in Islam is a breach of the freedom someone in our society is supposed to have, to entertain new beliefs. The only constraints on a persons behaviour, are those defined in UK law. If that action like leaving Islam, isn't constrained by UK law, then endorsing their murder is an encouragement to crime and should be struck down.</p>
<p>(b) It could be made illegal to speak a foreign language in public, if you aren't a tourist, i.e. a non-UK passport holder. The reasoning behind this is:</p>
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<li>you must be able to speak English as a condition of citizenship anyway, so that option must be available to you</li>
<li>speaking in a foreign language is not fair on the English speakers around you. They don't know if you are saying insulting things about them or organising (say in a shop) a way to scam them.</li>
<li>terrorists and criminals in this country are now able to use their private language and thus defeat the authorities attempts to monitor and control them.</li>
</ul> 4 Freedoms: Role of Members
T…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-01-22:3766518:Comment:1599942015-01-22T20:37:33.531ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>4 Freedoms: Role of Members</strong></span></p>
<p>The principal role of contributors to 4F is to preserve material related to our mission statement, that will otherwise disappear. It is currently being removed by:</p>
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<li>pro-Islamic operatives, and more will be removed later, as they rewrite history, and the conquest of the West is portrayed as a willing 'conversion'</li>
<li>Leftist activists, to protect their mythological conception…</li>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>4 Freedoms: Role of Members</strong></span></p>
<p>The principal role of contributors to 4F is to preserve material related to our mission statement, that will otherwise disappear. It is currently being removed by:</p>
<ul>
<li>pro-Islamic operatives, and more will be removed later, as they rewrite history, and the conquest of the West is portrayed as a willing 'conversion'</li>
<li>Leftist activists, to protect their mythological conception of what is going on</li>
<li>politicians and administrators, (see Rotherham grooming gangs, etc) to protect themselves from prosecution</li>
</ul>
<p>Material also disappears when it is routinely archived, as by newspapers that want to keep database costs down. It also disappears when it is no longer findable. That nearly happened recently with the video on how a Muslim demographic of 20% is the tipping point for take-over of the society. After a long search I managed to track a copy down, which I have now preserved.</p>
<p>So what does 4F provide that others don't?</p>
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<li>it preserves documents and videos that would otherwise get deleted or archived</li>
<li>it curates a subset with key words, so there is more chance of finding old articles. Without this, articles with generic content like 'terrorism' 'islam' 'gunmen' 'killed' 'masked' etc. can be impossible to locate</li>
<li>it catalogues the documents in a way that makes them browsable. This last aspect is very important when you do not realise what search terms you ought to have put in. For example, a newbie may search for "grooming gangs cover up Rotherham" without realising that the closing down / renaming of CROP is a factor in that issue. However, if he browses the articles collected under that subcategory, he will find it. Or he may search for "burqa criminal mask" without realising that the burqa has also been used often by terrorists escaping capture (and the word 'crime' does not appear in those terrorism articles).</li>
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<p>It is because of this important role, that argument over moral rights and wrongs etc, has a secondary importance here, and consequently, those who waste our time behaving in an improper manner, are given short shrift.</p>
<p>I apologise in advance for any copyright violations. I would like to point out to anyone who feels their copyright has been violated that we have very few readers, and that somebody has to preserve these records for the benefit of future generations (and historians). Also, our members are unpaid, and put in a lot of hours from their private time, to curate this valuable information.</p> 10 Reasons why Islam will win…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-10-24:3766518:Comment:1573702014-10-24T16:58:53.692ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><strong><span>10 Reasons why Islam will win</span></strong></p>
<p>It seems that <a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/admin/forum/topics/why-islam-will-replace-secular-democracy" target="_self">Islam will replace Secular Democracy (SD) in Europe</a>, but the US may wake up and adapt in time. The first 4 reasons represent characteristics of individual people, and the last 8 represent characteristics of the whole society.</p>
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<li><strong>Hedonistic:</strong> the principle of SD is…</li>
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<p><strong><span>10 Reasons why Islam will win</span></strong></p>
<p>It seems that <a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/admin/forum/topics/why-islam-will-replace-secular-democracy" target="_self">Islam will replace Secular Democracy (SD) in Europe</a>, but the US may wake up and adapt in time. The first 4 reasons represent characteristics of individual people, and the last 8 represent characteristics of the whole society.</p>
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<li><strong>Hedonistic:</strong> the principle of SD is "pursue your own pleasure", but Muslims have Islamic duties</li>
<li><strong>Cowardly:</strong> SD citizens are too weak & cowardly to face the issues, so kill the canary instead</li>
<li><strong>Spoilt:</strong> SD Citizens don't appreciate the Freedom they've always had, so won't fight to keep it</li>
<li><strong>Complexity:</strong> SD is too complex and fragile for most intellectuals to defend: Islam is much easier</li>
<li><strong>Tribalism Works:</strong> the unified group will always beat the divided group. We've lost what used to bind us but Islam has kept its identity</li>
<li><strong>Intimidation Works: </strong>Islamism eliminates opposing speakers through violence &intimidation,then the remainder are easily silenced</li>
<li><strong>Intolerance Works:</strong> Islam's monoculturalism easily wipes out the multiculturalism of SD</li>
<li><strong>Infiltration Works:</strong> the SD principle of non-discrimination gives positions of power even to those who plan to destroy it. Islam denies power to outsiders.</li>
<li><strong>Erosion Works:</strong> SD max timescale is 5 years, Islam's is 500 years: the gradual change isn't obvious enough to motivate action</li>
<li><strong>Reproduction Works: </strong>Muslim population doubling every 10 years & currently around 10% so soon Sharia Law will be voted in place</li>
</ol> The 12 Segregations of Islami…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-06-19:3766518:Comment:1276052013-06-19T11:46:12.463ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><span><strong>The 12 Segregations of Islamic Apartheid</strong></span></p>
<div><p>Using Segregation and Sectarianism to construct a Parallel Society.</p>
<p><span>The rejection of integration is by forcing separation of the following.</span></p>
<div><strong>Using Law</strong></div>
<div><p>1. <span>Parallel Courts</span> <em>outside the law</em><span>, with their own legal code, for example Sharia Law<br></br>2.</span> Privileges and Dispensations <em>in law</em>, for bigamy, probate,…</p>
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<p><span><strong>The 12 Segregations of Islamic Apartheid</strong></span></p>
<div><p>Using Segregation and Sectarianism to construct a Parallel Society.</p>
<p><span>The rejection of integration is by forcing separation of the following.</span></p>
<div><strong>Using Law</strong></div>
<div><p>1. <span>Parallel Courts</span> <em>outside the law</em><span>, with their own legal code, for example Sharia Law<br/>2.</span> Privileges and Dispensations <em>in law</em>, for bigamy, probate, drunkenness, speeding etc<br/>3. Privileged access breaching discrimination law, to public facilities like swimming pools</p>
<p><strong>Using Command and Control Systems (CCS)</strong></p>
<p>4. Command and Control System (CCS), organising the people outside government control<br/>5. Communication channels, possibly masked in a foreign language, reporting to the CCS<br/>6. Enforcement Groups (separate from the police), responding to the CCS, controlling the local area and applying Sharia</p>
<p><strong>Using Financial Systems</strong></p>
<p>7. Taxation thru Sharia Finance<br/>8. Control of food chain, by Halal Certification<br/>9. Control of workplaces, by discriminatory recruitment, giving a monocultural workforce</p>
<p><strong>Using People</strong></p>
<p>10. In schools: with indoctrination into antithetical political beliefs<br/>11. By personal threat and observation: by face covering<br/>12. By control of public spaces: intimidating others by a regular mob occupation (in prayer)</p>
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<p><span><strong>12 Point Plan for Muslims - to De-Politicise the Religion</strong></span></p>
<p>The Islamic Caste System rejects integration by forcing the 12 separations below. The de-politicisation of Islam is achieved by rescinding and banning these separations.</p>
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<li><b>Law</b>: Parallel Courts <em>outside the law</em>, with their own legal code, for example Sharia Law</li>
<li><b>Law</b>: Privileges and Dispensations <em>in law</em>, for bigamy, probate, drunkenness, speeding etc</li>
<li><b>Law</b>: Privileged access breaching discrimination law, to public facilities like swimming pools</li>
<li><strong>CCS</strong>: Command and Control System (CCS), organising the people outside government control</li>
<li><strong>CCS</strong>: Communication channels, possibly masked in a foreign language, reporting to the CCS</li>
<li><strong>CCS</strong>: Enforcement Groups (separate from the police), responding to the CCS, controlling the local area and applying Sharia</li>
<li><strong>Financial System</strong>: Taxation thru Sharia Finance</li>
<li><strong>Financial System</strong>: Control of food chain, by Halal Certification</li>
<li><strong>Financial System</strong>: Control of workplaces, by discriminatory recruitment, giving a monocultural workforce</li>
<li><strong>People</strong>: Schools, with indoctrination into antithetical political beliefs</li>
<li><strong>People</strong>, by face covering</li>
<li><strong>People</strong>: Control of public spaces, intimidating others by a regular mob occupation</li>
</ol> The 12 Point Plan to Restore …tag:4freedoms.com,2013-06-19:3766518:Comment:1276022013-06-19T11:43:28.939ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>The 12 Point Plan to Restore Equal Civil Rights</strong></span></p>
<p>To roll back the intrusion of religion into the secular state, we mandate the <a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/admin/forum/topics/the-12point-plan-for-equal" target="_self">12 Point Plan</a>.</p>
<p>There are two formulations of the plan. The <em>general</em> one is non-discriminatory and non-specific, so it can be codified into law without breaking the 3rd of the…</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>The 12 Point Plan to Restore Equal Civil Rights</strong></span></p>
<p>To roll back the intrusion of religion into the secular state, we mandate the <a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/admin/forum/topics/the-12point-plan-for-equal" target="_self">12 Point Plan</a>.</p>
<p>There are two formulations of the plan. The <em>general</em> one is non-discriminatory and non-specific, so it can be codified into law without breaking the 3rd of the Four Freedoms. The <em>example</em> one mentions Muslims by way of example, to make it easier to understand what problem is being addressed. But of course, these laws would still apply to everyone, and there would be impacts on the Christian and Jewish communities.</p>
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<p><strong>The 12 Point Plan - Example Form</strong></p>
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<li>Have audio and video monitoring inside mosques, for hate speech and sedition</li>
<li>Stop cowardly hiding, and start prosecuting Muslim hate crimes against Jews, Gays and Apostates</li>
<li>Ban face coverings like the Burqa and Niqab in public places</li>
<li>Stop Muslim forced marriage, bigamy, child grooming and under age FGM</li>
<li>Stop sectarian discrimination in public places. No more Muslim only swimming pool sessions. We kuffar are not dirty! </li>
<li>Stop excluding police and fire services from mosques. They are not embassies on diplomatic ground! Stop Traffic Warden exclusion from around mosques at prayer times. One law for all!</li>
<li>Take action on electoral fraud in Tower Hamlets and elsewhere. Also take a stronger line on all immigration, which is a form of electoral fraud in favour of Labour.</li>
<li>Take action against Muslim leaders* who make statements that excuse terrorism or are inclined towards seditious acts.</li>
<li>Stop giving money to Muslim groups as a reward for their bombings and terrorism</li>
<li>Stop mandating Halal meat in schools, hospitals, prisons and other institutions. Instead, it may be offered as an at-cost option, if the demanding individual wishes to pay for it.** Also, restrictive trade practices around Halal meat production are illegal. No more closed shop trades - equal work rights for all.</li>
<li>Mosques are political command and control centres. Therefore, no funding for the construction or support of mosques should be allowed from foreign countries, in the same way that we would not allow the Chinese government to construct command and control centres in the UK.</li>
<li>We must protect vulnerable children and young people from propaganda by foreign governments and political coercion by parents. Firstly, stop the funding by Islamic countries, of education in subjects which can impart a political statement or view, as these are currently being used to indoctrinate and propagandise our youth and students. Secondly, it should be illegal for any child to become a Muslim before voting age, since Islam is a political party, and the punishment for leaving it is death. We would not accept that parents register their babies as members of the Communist Party, for which the punishment on leaving is death.</li>
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<li>* Lord Ahmed threatened 10,000 Muslim men to stop the screening of a film in parliament. Fiyaz Mughal made statements giving excuses for the 7/7 bombings. Shahid Malik talked gladly of the time when parliament is ruled by Muslims (a 'race' grouping, not a political grouping).</li>
<li>** What I am saying is that if you want it, it can be couriered in by a private company, but you have to pay for it. That is to say, Halal meat will not be banned from schools and hospitals, you can have it if you want, but you have to fund it, not the public.<br/><br/>This should come across as perfectly reasonable. If I want school to provide me with a diet of caviar and avocados, school should not block it, but I should pay for a private company to dispatch it. The cost will obviously be enormous, but thats not our problem.<br/><br/>The second reason why it should come across as reasonable is that you can then explain that Halal practitioners assert that everyone else's food is SO DIRTY that it can't share the kitchen. Therefore, to save trouble, institutions convert to a pure Halal supply.<br/><br/>Other cultures do not demand that same segregation and apartheid. Therefore, since Muslims demand that segregation, they can have it, but must pay for it. Their food should be prepared in a separate halal only kitchen, off site, owned privately, and dispatched to the school / hospital / prison for the person that has chosen to have it.<br/><br/>Thus everyones needs can be met without discriminatory concessions to halal in the kitchen, and without discriminatory subsidy of halal to the recipient.</li>
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<div>If he has a full plan he can just say:</div>
<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote">"We have a 12 point plan on our website (or whatever), have you read it, as part of your preparation for this meeting?"</blockquote>
<div>straightaway the interviewer looks foolish. Then</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote">"Obviously there isn't time to go thru all the points of the program, so would you like me to explain just a few example points?"</blockquote>
<div>Then he looks totally in control, and it gives him an opportunity to cherry pick the points which are the most incisive, the easiest for the audience to relate to, and the easiest to defend.</div>
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<p><span><strong>The 12 Point Plan - Legal Form</strong></span></p>
<p><strong>Crime<br/></strong>1. Stop and monitor hate speech in religious assemblies & publications<br/>2. Stop hate crimes against Jews, gays and apostates<br/>3. Stop face covering in public<br/>4. Stop forced marriage, bigamy, child grooming and under age FGM</p>
<p><strong>Discrimination & Privilege</strong><br/>5. Stop citizen exclusion from public buildings and areas<br/>6. Stop Police, Fire service and Traffic Warden exclusion from privileged areas and buildings</p>
<p><strong>Treason</strong><br/>7. Stop electoral fraud via immigration without consultation<br/>8. Stop seditious statements by members of government institutions</p>
<p><strong>Finance</strong><br/>9. Stop government subsidy of communities implicated in terrorism<br/>10. Stop government funding of sectarian diets in public services<br/>11. Stop foreign funding for construction of political centres<br/>12. Stop foreign funding of education in subjects which can <span>include </span>a political statement or view</p>