MI5's List of British Terrorists Since 2001 - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-29T12:03:49Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/mi5-s-list-of-british-terrorists-since-2001?groupUrl=maps&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A147083&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A857&feed=yes&xn_auth=noComment from Joe:
I just had…tag:4freedoms.com,2016-08-06:3766518:Comment:1822202016-08-06T02:07:46.764ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><strong>Comment from Joe:</strong></p>
<div>I just had a look at the MI5 website. And there is no longer any sign of the statistics.</div>
<div>Here's the pattern over the last 5 years:</div>
<div><ol>
<li><span>keep breaking the URL</span></li>
<li><span>don't maintain the page for 6 to 18 months</span></li>
<li><span>remove the list + summary & replace with a page containing a load of Excel spreadsheets</span></li>
<li><span>remove the data altogether</span></li>
</ol>
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<div>I…</div>
<p><strong>Comment from Joe:</strong></p>
<div>I just had a look at the MI5 website. And there is no longer any sign of the statistics.</div>
<div>Here's the pattern over the last 5 years:</div>
<div><ol>
<li><span>keep breaking the URL</span></li>
<li><span>don't maintain the page for 6 to 18 months</span></li>
<li><span>remove the list + summary & replace with a page containing a load of Excel spreadsheets</span></li>
<li><span>remove the data altogether</span></li>
</ol>
</div>
<div>I don't know if I ever downloaded the last lot of spreadsheets (must be 12 months ago).</div>
<div>This looks like one of the only records in history that they maintained this data & then proceeded to hide it.</div> And consider this:
it took MI…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-19:3766518:Comment:1668382015-05-19T10:09:54.993ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>And consider this:</p>
<p>it took MI5 2 years to list the beheading of a soldier in broad daylight on the streets of London as "notable".</p>
<p>And consider this:</p>
<p>it took MI5 2 years to list the beheading of a soldier in broad daylight on the streets of London as "notable".</p> Unbelievable. Good job you c…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-19:3766518:Comment:1669262015-05-19T02:52:27.632ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Unbelievable. Good job you captured it.</p>
<p>Unbelievable. Good job you captured it.</p> I have taken a screenshot of…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-17:3766518:Comment:1668232015-05-17T14:41:00.154ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>I have taken a screenshot of the page from before this "update". A later version of the page has already gone from archive.org.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54806335?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54806335?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p>I have taken a screenshot of the page from before this "update". A later version of the page has already gone from archive.org.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54806335?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54806335?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a></p> 2 years ago, they stopped upd…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-05-17:3766518:Comment:1669182015-05-17T14:36:26.951ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>2 years ago, they stopped updating this list (the total stood at 348 convictions, IIRC).</p>
<p>The page has been updated, and moved again. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/about-us/what-we-do/the-threats/terrorism/international-terrorism/arrests-and-convictions.html" target="_blank">https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/about-us/what-we-do/the-threats/terrorism/international-terrorism/arrests-and-convictions.html</a></p>
<p>This time they no longer provide a count. And at least 11…</p>
<p>2 years ago, they stopped updating this list (the total stood at 348 convictions, IIRC).</p>
<p>The page has been updated, and moved again. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/about-us/what-we-do/the-threats/terrorism/international-terrorism/arrests-and-convictions.html" target="_blank">https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/about-us/what-we-do/the-threats/terrorism/international-terrorism/arrests-and-convictions.html</a></p>
<p>This time they no longer provide a count. And at least 11 terrorism convictions (muslims who wanted to aid ISIS) are not listed there. </p>
<p>Now the page just contains "notable" "international" "terrorism" convictions.</p>
<p>Note how originally the page was called "arrests and convictions" (they have forgotten to update the title to be just "convictions"). When they first set up this page, no doubt they planned to list arrests/convictions. But the myth of "the religion of peace" has been overwhelmed by the sheer number of convictions, never mind listing all those arrested too.</p> I've put a pointer to it in t…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-04-29:3766518:Comment:1470832014-04-29T01:13:26.674ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>I've put a pointer to it in the Info Box for the Terrorism Victims Room.</p>
<p>I've put a pointer to it in the Info Box for the Terrorism Victims Room.</p> MI5 have always been fairly t…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-04-28:3766518:Comment:1471652014-04-28T09:22:50.172ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>MI5 have always been fairly tardy about updating this list of "international terrorists" (code for "muslim terrorists", since every single terrorist is a muslim, and at least 50% are British citizens committing terrorism in the UK). But since I've been keeping an eye on this list, I don't think I've ever seen them wait so long between updates.…</p>
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<p>MI5 have always been fairly tardy about updating this list of "international terrorists" (code for "muslim terrorists", since every single terrorist is a muslim, and at least 50% are British citizens committing terrorism in the UK). But since I've been keeping an eye on this list, I don't think I've ever seen them wait so long between updates.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/the-threats/terrorism/international-terrorism/international-terrorist-plots/arrests-and-convictions.html" target="_blank">https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/the-threats/terrorism/international-terrorism/international-terrorist-plots/arrests-and-convictions.html</a></p>
<p>Hasn't been updated since last June.</p>
<p></p> There's basically an average…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-09:3766518:Comment:1235182013-05-09T23:26:09.226ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>There's basically an average of 25 muslims convicted of terrorism in the UK every 12 months.</p>
<p>At around 1/20th of the population, we would need 500 non-muslims to be convicted of terrorism in the UK every year, if terrorism was not connected with islam. I doubt there are 5 non-muslims a year convicted of terrorism. That means that in the UK islam is a factor in terrorist convictions of (at least) 100:1 . Phrased differently, in the UK it is 100x more likely that a terrorist will be…</p>
<p>There's basically an average of 25 muslims convicted of terrorism in the UK every 12 months.</p>
<p>At around 1/20th of the population, we would need 500 non-muslims to be convicted of terrorism in the UK every year, if terrorism was not connected with islam. I doubt there are 5 non-muslims a year convicted of terrorism. That means that in the UK islam is a factor in terrorist convictions of (at least) 100:1 . Phrased differently, in the UK it is 100x more likely that a terrorist will be a muslim rather than any other religious/non-religious belief.</p>
<p></p> This document has now moved o…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-09:3766518:Comment:1234542013-05-09T13:39:55.794ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>This document has now moved on the MI5 website. Here's the new location: </p>
<p><a href="https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/the-threats/terrorism/international-terrorism/international-terrorism-and-the-uk/terrorist-plots-in-the-uk.html">https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/the-threats/terrorism/international-ter...</a></p>
<p>They have updated it from 2010 to 2013. An additional 75 muslims have been convicted of terrorism here in the past 3 years, bringing the post 9/11 total to 312.</p>
<p>When I have…</p>
<p>This document has now moved on the MI5 website. Here's the new location: </p>
<p><a href="https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/the-threats/terrorism/international-terrorism/international-terrorism-and-the-uk/terrorist-plots-in-the-uk.html">https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/the-threats/terrorism/international-ter...</a></p>
<p>They have updated it from 2010 to 2013. An additional 75 muslims have been convicted of terrorism here in the past 3 years, bringing the post 9/11 total to 312.</p>
<p>When I have provided this document to the Liberal-Left Ansar they have responded "it doesn't say they were all muslims so you can't claim this is about muslims". Yet I cannot see a single terrorist incident listed there that was not perpetrated only by muslims.</p>
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