Niqab-wearing Muslim waves Union Flag shock! - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-28T08:09:02Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/niqab-wearing-muslim-waves-union-flag-shock?groupUrl=women&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A139380&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A318&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTheresa May,Islam & the i…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-10-01:3766518:Comment:1394642013-10-01T16:32:18.515ZAntonyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Antony
<p>Theresa May,Islam & the illusion of choice ; <a href="http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/10/1/theresa-may-islam-and-the-illusion-of-choice#" target="_blank">http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/10/1/theresa-may-islam-and-the-illusion-of-choice#</a></p>
<p>Theresa May,Islam & the illusion of choice ; <a href="http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/10/1/theresa-may-islam-and-the-illusion-of-choice#" target="_blank">http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/10/1/theresa-may-islam-and-the-illusion-of-choice#</a></p> For anyone who doubts Shiva's…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-10-01:3766518:Comment:1395192013-10-01T01:53:28.641ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>For anyone who doubts Shiva's words, they are most elegantly proven in the Full Jihad Timeline, here:</p>
<p><a href="http://4freedoms.com/page/full-jihad-timeline" target="_blank">http://4freedoms.com/page/full-jihad-timeline</a><br></br> <br></br> <cite>shiva said:…</cite></p>
<p>For anyone who doubts Shiva's words, they are most elegantly proven in the Full Jihad Timeline, here:</p>
<p><a href="http://4freedoms.com/page/full-jihad-timeline" target="_blank">http://4freedoms.com/page/full-jihad-timeline</a><br/> <br/> <cite>shiva said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/niqab-wearing-muslim-waves-union-flag-shock?groupUrl=women&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A139380&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A318#3766518Comment139380"><div><p><cite>Joe said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/niqab-wearing-muslim-waves-union-flag-shock?groupUrl=women&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A139379&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A318#3766518Comment139513"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">It was 1815 when a joint British/American fleet bombed Algiers into dust, because they would not stop enslaving white people. 100 years later, Germany was attempting to re-kindle the idea of Jihad. So, there was basically about 100 years when the Jihad was subdued. Even when the islamic world is fundamentally quiescent, like between 1815 and 1979, things like Jihad are only just off the agenda, ready to be brought front and centre.</div>
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<div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yo, during the Time span 1815 - 1979 there was the Armenian genocide, Noakhali genocide, East Bengal genocide, then the Hindu genocide during Bangladesh Liberation War. In the same year as the Six-Day Arab/Israel War, more than a million black African Christians were murdered by Muslims, and among those Muslims were Egyptian pilots who, in their MIGs, strafed at will the helpless Ibo villagers who were in the self-declared state of Biafra.</p>
<p> I do not believe there was any let down in the Jihad, it was either simply not reported, or no one was paying attention during this period, and hardly doing so to-day.</p>
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</blockquote> Its almost as if they are com…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-10-01:3766518:Comment:1393002013-10-01T01:49:46.751ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Its almost as if they are competing to see who can make their women the most ugly.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>shiva said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/niqab-wearing-muslim-waves-union-flag-shock?groupUrl=women&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A139380&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A318#3766518Comment139287"><div><p>Now this one is spooky…</p>
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<p>Its almost as if they are competing to see who can make their women the most ugly.<br/> <br/> <cite>shiva said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/niqab-wearing-muslim-waves-union-flag-shock?groupUrl=women&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A139380&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A318#3766518Comment139287"><div><p>Now this one is spooky</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804926?profile=original"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804926?profile=original" width="400"/></a>This is the traditional head dress for Omani women to show they are married, seriously, I am not joking</p>
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It was 1815 when a…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-09-30:3766518:Comment:1393802013-09-30T05:31:48.839Zshivahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/shiva
<p><cite>Joe said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/niqab-wearing-muslim-waves-union-flag-shock?groupUrl=women&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A139379&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A318#3766518Comment139513"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">It was 1815 when a joint British/American fleet bombed Algiers into dust, because they would not stop enslaving white people. 100 years later, Germany was attempting to re-kindle the idea of Jihad.…</div>
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<p><cite>Joe said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/niqab-wearing-muslim-waves-union-flag-shock?groupUrl=women&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A139379&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A318#3766518Comment139513"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">It was 1815 when a joint British/American fleet bombed Algiers into dust, because they would not stop enslaving white people. 100 years later, Germany was attempting to re-kindle the idea of Jihad. So, there was basically about 100 years when the Jihad was subdued. Even when the islamic world is fundamentally quiescent, like between 1815 and 1979, things like Jihad are only just off the agenda, ready to be brought front and centre.</div>
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<div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Yo, during the Time span 1815 - 1979 there was the Armenian genocide, Noakhali genocide, East Bengal genocide, then the Hindu genocide during Bangladesh Liberation War. In the same year as the Six-Day Arab/Israel War, more than a million black African Christians were murdered by Muslims, and among those Muslims were Egyptian pilots who, in their MIGs, strafed at will the helpless Ibo villagers who were in the self-declared state of Biafra.</p>
<p> I do not believe there was any let down in the Jihad, it was either simply not reported, or no one was paying attention during this period, and hardly doing so to-day.</p>
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</div> I've seen her before.
She lo…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-09-29:3766518:Comment:1393792013-09-29T19:13:38.297ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>I've seen her before. <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804795?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804795?profile=original" width="300"></img></a></p>
<p>She looks like a cross between Les Dawson and a WWWF wrestler.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804875?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804875?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721"></img></a> <br></br> <br></br> <cite>shiva said:…</cite></p>
<p>I've seen her before. <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804795?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804795?profile=original" width="300" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p>She looks like a cross between Les Dawson and a WWWF wrestler.</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804875?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804875?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="721" class="align-full"/></a><br/> <br/> <cite>shiva said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/niqab-wearing-muslim-waves-union-flag-shock?groupUrl=women&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A139287&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A318#3766518Comment139287"><p>Now this one is spooky. This is the traditional head dress for Omani women to show they are married, seriously, I am not joking</p>
</blockquote> I was watching a documentary…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-09-29:3766518:Comment:1395132013-09-29T19:05:49.468ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>I was watching a documentary on WW1 a few weeks back. It was all about Jihad in WW1. Yes. Jihad in the 1914-1918 conflict. In the documentary, German soldiers were going to Turkey, Iraq and Afghanistan, attempting to get muslims to declare "a Holy War" against Britain. The Germans generally failed. And it was during and after the battle at Gallipoli that Ataturk came to prominence (seems he was unimpressed by German support in the war).</p>
<p>It's important to remember that the German…</p>
<p>I was watching a documentary on WW1 a few weeks back. It was all about Jihad in WW1. Yes. Jihad in the 1914-1918 conflict. In the documentary, German soldiers were going to Turkey, Iraq and Afghanistan, attempting to get muslims to declare "a Holy War" against Britain. The Germans generally failed. And it was during and after the battle at Gallipoli that Ataturk came to prominence (seems he was unimpressed by German support in the war).</p>
<p>It's important to remember that the German army was on hand to witness the Armenian massacre. Leading Hitler years later to say "who remembers the Armenians" (i.e. no-one).</p>
<p>It was 1815 when a joint British/American fleet bombed Algiers into dust, because they would not stop enslaving white people. 100 years later, Germany was attempting to re-kindle the idea of Jihad. So, there was basically about 100 years when the Jihad was subdued. Even when the islamic world is fundamentally quiescent, like between 1815 and 1979, things like Jihad are only just off the agenda, ready to be brought front and centre.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Paul Austin Murphy said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/niqab-wearing-muslim-waves-union-flag-shock?groupUrl=women&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A139287&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A318#3766518Comment139442"><div><p>The Algerian case is interesting. Arab nationalists have always tapped into Islam when it suited them. Saddam Hussein even embraced Islam - as it were - during both the 1991 and the 203 wars. He knew that it would appeal to Arabs and Muslims abroad and even at home. He was otherwise one of the most secular leaders the Arab world has ever produced.</p>
<p>Yassar Arafat's another good example. He too fluctuated between being a Marxist nationalist to being a pious Muslim - depending on who he was speaking to and what he wanted. In a sense, he was neither a Marxist nor an Islamist. He was a deeply corrupt despot with nationalist feelings and a desire to annihilate Israel. Who knows, such a flagrant crook and multi-millionaire may not have even been that much against Israel in his later days; though he would have also known that anti-Israel rhetoric, and even some actions, would be needed to sustain his power and his purse.</p>
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</blockquote> Now this one is spooky
This i…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-09-29:3766518:Comment:1392872013-09-29T17:18:40.965Zshivahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/shiva
<p>Now this one is spooky</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804926?profile=original"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804926?profile=original" width="400"/></a>This is the traditional head dress for Omani women to show they are married, seriously, I am not joking</p>
<p>Now this one is spooky</p>
<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804926?profile=original"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804926?profile=original" width="400"/></a>This is the traditional head dress for Omani women to show they are married, seriously, I am not joking</p> Actually, I think that Arafa…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-09-29:3766518:Comment:1392852013-09-29T16:45:19.145ZPaul Austin Murphyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PaulAustinMurphy
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<p>Actually, I think that Arafat's Marxism was an affectation too. He paraded it largely to appeal to his foreign Leftist supporters and Marxism was in the air in the 1960s and 70s. In other words, he used the Marxist badge just as he used Islamic stuff.</p>
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<p>Actually, I think that Arafat's Marxism was an affectation too. He paraded it largely to appeal to his foreign Leftist supporters and Marxism was in the air in the 1960s and 70s. In other words, he used the Marxist badge just as he used Islamic stuff.</p> The Algerian case is interes…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-09-29:3766518:Comment:1394422013-09-29T16:28:02.629ZPaul Austin Murphyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PaulAustinMurphy
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<p>The Algerian case is interesting. Arab nationalists have always tapped into Islam when it suited them. Saddam Hussein even embraced Islam - as it were - during both the 1991 and the 203 wars. He knew that it would appeal to Arabs and Muslims abroad and even at home. He was otherwise one of the most secular leaders the Arab world has ever produced.</p>
<p>Yassar Arafat's another good example. He too fluctuated between being a Marxist nationalist to being a pious Muslim - depending on…</p>
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<p>The Algerian case is interesting. Arab nationalists have always tapped into Islam when it suited them. Saddam Hussein even embraced Islam - as it were - during both the 1991 and the 203 wars. He knew that it would appeal to Arabs and Muslims abroad and even at home. He was otherwise one of the most secular leaders the Arab world has ever produced.</p>
<p>Yassar Arafat's another good example. He too fluctuated between being a Marxist nationalist to being a pious Muslim - depending on who he was speaking to and what he wanted. In a sense, he was neither a Marxist nor an Islamist. He was a deeply corrupt despot with nationalist feelings and a desire to annihilate Israel. Who knows, such a flagrant crook and multi-millionaire may not have even been that much against Israel in his later days; though he would have also known that anti-Israel rhetoric, and even some actions, would be needed to sustain his power and his purse.</p>
Women wearing traditional v…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-09-28:3766518:Comment:1392762013-09-28T18:30:50.936Zshivahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/shiva
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804797?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804797?profile=original" width="480"></img></a> <em>Women wearing traditional veils called “haik” walk in downtown Algiers.</em></p>
<p>The niqab or black full-face veil has also made an appearance in Algeria in the 1990s, as in many other Arab countries, with the women beneath them even wearing gloves to cover their hands, only their eyes visible.</p>
<p>The hijab and the niqab is not a…</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804797?profile=original"><img class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804797?profile=original" width="480"/></a><em>Women wearing traditional veils called “haik” walk in downtown Algiers.</em></p>
<p>The niqab or black full-face veil has also made an appearance in Algeria in the 1990s, as in many other Arab countries, with the women beneath them even wearing gloves to cover their hands, only their eyes visible.</p>
<p>The hijab and the niqab is not a part of Algerian tradition, where as the haik which has Turkish origins, dates back more than 300 years prior to French colonial rule when much of Algeria was a part of the Ottoman empire.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">"But the haik can enhance today's women, with its lightness and elegance."</p>
<p>Fifty years after Algeria's hard-fought independence from France, Abdelkader Achour, president of an association devoted to protecting local traditions, says the white dress played a crucial role in the nationalist struggle.</p>
<p>"Algerian women carried bombs and machineguns under the haik (during the 1954-1962 war of independence). She crossed the street carrying from one place to another these weapons that were used against the French," he said.</p>
<p>And while the occupation soldiers searched Algerian men, they didn't touch the women.</p>
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