Pope Francis: Enemy of Christianity and Europe - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-29T16:01:06Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/pope-francis?groupUrl=theology&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A7416&id=3766518%3ATopic%3A178670&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOK, I've read the Pope's word…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-10-31:3766518:Comment:2795872023-10-31T22:36:42.070ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>OK, I've read the Pope's words in NCRonline.org, and they are thoroughly evil. It's an undiluted mixture of self-flattery, delusional utopianism, ethical point scoring and naked halo polishing, without the slightest condescension or concession to practicality, or even justice (as in discriminating between abuser and abused). </p>
<p>He is as disgusting as Hamas, although in a different way. With leaders like that, how can the West, as a Judeo-Christian civilisation, survive?</p>
<p>OK, I've read the Pope's words in NCRonline.org, and they are thoroughly evil. It's an undiluted mixture of self-flattery, delusional utopianism, ethical point scoring and naked halo polishing, without the slightest condescension or concession to practicality, or even justice (as in discriminating between abuser and abused). </p>
<p>He is as disgusting as Hamas, although in a different way. With leaders like that, how can the West, as a Judeo-Christian civilisation, survive?</p> You are not alone Alan! Crit…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-10-31:3766518:Comment:2794942023-10-31T18:16:07.488ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>You are not alone Alan! Critics say it is an effort by Pope Francis to fashion the Church in his own image. Here is a critical view of this process.</p>
<p><a href="http://thecatholiccurrent.libsyn.com/the-synoda-pandoras-box-jose-ureta-julio-loredo-92823" target="_blank">http://thecatholiccurrent.libsyn.com/the-synoda-pandoras-box-jose-ureta-julio-loredo-92823</a> <br></br><br></br>Here is a more sympathetic assessment/report, as its first meeting has just finished. …<br></br><br></br></p>
<p>You are not alone Alan! Critics say it is an effort by Pope Francis to fashion the Church in his own image. Here is a critical view of this process.</p>
<p><a href="http://thecatholiccurrent.libsyn.com/the-synoda-pandoras-box-jose-ureta-julio-loredo-92823" target="_blank">http://thecatholiccurrent.libsyn.com/the-synoda-pandoras-box-jose-ureta-julio-loredo-92823</a> <br/><br/>Here is a more sympathetic assessment/report, as its first meeting has just finished. <br/><br/><a href="https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/pope-francis-closes-synod-dream-church-open-doors" target="_blank">https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/pope-francis-closes-synod-dream-church-open-doors</a><br/> <br/> <cite>Alan Lake said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/pope-francis?groupUrl=theology&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A279384&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A7416#3766518Comment279384"><div><p>What's a synod / synodality? I don't know this concept.</p>
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</blockquote> What's a synod / synodality?…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-10-30:3766518:Comment:2793842023-10-30T18:01:33.718ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>What's a synod / synodality? I don't know this concept.</p>
<p>What's a synod / synodality? I don't know this concept.</p> On listening, ambiguity and c…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-10-30:3766518:Comment:2794922023-10-30T08:11:27.687ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>On listening, ambiguity and clarity of this Pope. A Bishop speaks out.</p>
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<p><i>A post by Bishop Rob Mutsaerts, Auxiliary Bishop of 's-Hertogenbosch (Bois-le-Duc), Netherlands. Translated from his blog in Dutch </i><span;><i>here</i><span;><i>. </i><br></br> <br></br>What is the synod underway in Rome actually about? Over and again, official Vatican sources are telling us many things. That it is <span;><i>not </i><span;>about theology, nor about doctrinal matters,…</p>
<p>On listening, ambiguity and clarity of this Pope. A Bishop speaks out.</p>
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<p><i>A post by Bishop Rob Mutsaerts, Auxiliary Bishop of 's-Hertogenbosch (Bois-le-Duc), Netherlands. Translated from his blog in Dutch </i><span;><i>here</i><span;><i>. </i><br/> <br/>What is the synod underway in Rome actually about? Over and again, official Vatican sources are telling us many things. That it is <span;><i>not </i><span;>about theology, nor about doctrinal matters, nor about LGBTQ+, the ordination of women and the issue of celibacy. Neither is it, they add, about seeking to undermine or replace the hierarchical nature of the church or democratize the decision-making process. No, it would seem to be dealing with the question of what synodality is. After all, this is a synod on synodality.<br/> <br/><br/><span;>Nobody seems to know what that is, and so the Pope has figured that we had better organize a synod on that. Then, maybe, we could find out. How? By listening. But if so, there is no escaping the fact that there must also be talk. By whom? By people who have been invited by the Pope.<br/> <br/><br/><span;>Thus did Pope Francis invite a theologian who unabashedly proclaimed, “If we reach the consensus that the Church is essentially synodal, we will have to rethink the whole Church, all the institutions, the whole life of the Church in a synodal sense.” One of the bishops present openly confirmed that it will be necessary to depart from the apostolic tradition. Since then, a wealth of speakers has been preaching revolution. That this is not about theology or doctrine is an impossible illusion to keep up any longer. <span;><i>It is primarily about them. </i><span;>And this is what we shall see.<br/> <br/><br/>In a few days the final report will be published (it has probably been finalized for quite some time) and the people of God will also be treated to a letter. That the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with it has become obvious by now.<br/> <br/><br/><b>Whatever synodality may mean, synods exist, at any rate, in order to discover how we must set to work in the present age to encourage that people be brought to Christ. Trouble is, however, that Jesus and the salvation of souls (which is ultimately what faith is all about, after all) have hardly come up in all the listening sessions, schemas, and testimonies. There are no references at all to Church Fathers, saints and theologians, and again, very few to the Bible and Tradition; the Pope mostly cites himself and there is no question of any philosophical thinking at all. Most of the talk is dominated by feelings.</b><br/> <br/><br/>This has not produced clear ideas by any means, even though the purpose of a synod is to provide clarity. If there is one thing that Francis does not do, it is <span;><i>that</i><span;>. This has been demonstrated once again by the answers to the Dubia questions.<br/> <br/><br/>Without clear ideas, we continue to grope in the dark for shadows in the night and we are left with nothing but fabrications of the mind that are closer or further from the truth. But truth itself is not being sought. Surely, though, is it not the truth that sets us free? What on earth is the point of emphasizing the pastoral aspect if it is not clear that it is rooted in the truth? Words like “irregular,” “sodomy” and “feeling conscious of sin” are being studiously avoided. That might make someone feel upset, or worse, excluded!<br/> <br/><br/>So isn’t everyone welcome in the Church? Certainly, yes. The only people who should stay at home are those who feel that there is nothing wrong with them and that they have no need of conversion. Apart from them, everyone is welcome. But there is one condition: that they come to repentance and appeal to God’s mercy. That is the whole point of religion, after all. It’s about recognizing that there is a standard – call it the truth – that has been revealed to us, and that you are not up to that standard. That is why you go to Church. To ask forgiveness, and to be strengthened by God’s grace, by using the means of grace: the sacraments, God’s Word, support from the faith community, so that you work more and more toward the sanctification of your life.<br/> <br/><br/>Now that is the nub of the matter: people are demanding that the Church approve lifestyles that the Bible disapproves of. People want the Church to adjust the standards! But it can’t. Jesus said to the adulteress, “Go forth and sin no more.” The LGBT community insists that the Church now say: “Go forth and don’t worry, just stick to your lifestyle.” But cheap mercy is not to be obtained from Jesus. Certainly, He is merciful, but only on the condition of conversion.<br/> <br/><br/><b>If someone asks for my blessing, I will give it. I will not ask that person for a résumé beforehand. But if people ask me to bless a </b><span;><i><b>relationship </b></i><span;><b>that the Church (based on the word of Jesus Himself) considers sinful, I will obviously not give it to them. Don’t ask the Church to change what Jesus has clearly spoken about. If that makes people feel excluded, so be it. Jesus Himself excluded a lot of people. Of various categories of people He made it clear that they would not inherit the Kingdom of God. And to make that even more clear, He called them “hypocrites,” “brood of vipers,” “whitewashed tombs,” and more of these kinds of original biblical invective. Synod participants who believe that hospitality, inclusion, and diversity are the primary attributes of the Church should reread the Bible on those counts. I especially recommend the letters of Paul. </b><br/> <br/><br/>Everyone is a sinner. And while we must love our neighbor, we must also be able to call certain acts sins. Vague, unclear answers will not draw anyone to the Church of Christ. Adapting to secular norms even keeps people <span;><i>away </i><span;>from Christ: it makes them feel confirmed in their unchurchly views. It is also unloving. The Church did not receive from Jesus as a first assignment the order to listen, but the order to be missionary: “Go, therefore, and <span;><i>make disciples </i><span;>of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, <span;><i>teaching </i><span;>them to <span;><i>observe </i><span;>all that I have <span;><i>commanded </i><span;>you.”<br/> <br/><br/>So what does the pope actually want? Why does he invite James Martin? Why so many pals in his image and likeness? Why does he choose Cardinal Hollerich as relator for the synod? (Hollerich has once again reasserted that a number of the Church’s positions are scientifically and sociologically ill-founded. No, dear Cardinal, these positions are biblically founded!) Why did he make ample time last week, amidst all the synodal bustle, to meet with Sister Jeannine Gramick who believes the Church’s teaching on ethical issues (of course, it again involves LGTBQ+) needs to be changed? Her organization has been condemned in the past. Why is he clearing space in his schedule during these busy weeks to receive Whoopi Goldberg with every honor? Following her visit, she declared that it was a fantastic one because of the pope’s acceptance of gay relationships and his openness to ordaining women. Was what she said accurate? The Vatican in no way refuted it. By the time she was twenty-five, Goldberg had already aborted seven children and she is still a strong supporter of abortion.<br/> <br/><br/>Is that what synodality is: listening to anyone and everyone who has <span;><i>anything at all </i><span;>to say? Is that why the pope is listening to precisely... <span;><i>these </i><span;>people? Without a single rebuttal? Or does he slowly but surely wish to ripen the synod members for these other sounds because he actually endorses the ideas they express? If not, why is he creating so much confusion by not answering a single question in a clear way?<br/> <br/><br/>Whatever the case, division within the synod has only increased during the synod. That this is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit should be obvious. That this synod on synodality is a disaster should also be clear by now. The same goes for the one who thought it up.<br/> <br/><br/>+Rob Mutsaerts <br/><br/>By Peter Kwasniewski at 10/28/2023 04:33:00 AM <br/></p> tag:4freedoms.com,2023-10-29:3766518:Comment:2791792023-10-29T00:48:12.690ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
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<p>Somebody needs to deal with the papal situation. </p>
<p>Somebody needs to deal with the papal situation. </p> The current Pope, a dangerous…tag:4freedoms.com,2023-10-28:3766518:Comment:2789802023-10-28T17:17:30.154ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>The current Pope, a dangerous and ignorant man.</p>
<p><a href="https://stream.org/pope-francis-defends-islam-as-religion-of-peace-in-new-book/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://stream.org/pope-francis-defends-islam-as-religion-of-peace-...</a></p>
<p>The current Pope, a dangerous and ignorant man.</p>
<p><a href="https://stream.org/pope-francis-defends-islam-as-religion-of-peace-in-new-book/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://stream.org/pope-francis-defends-islam-as-religion-of-peace-...</a></p> Surrendering Christendom
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<p class="sans-serif"><b>by Mark Steyn <i>Mark's Monday Notebook </i>September 25, 2023</b></p>
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<div class="article_body"><p>As a promotional tie-in for<span> </span><i>The Mark Steyn Show</i>'s<span> </span><a href="https://www.steynonline.com/mark-steyn-show/13769/the-future-belongs-to-those-who-show-up" target="_blank" rel="noopener">demographic whirlwind special</a>, the Italian government very kindly arranged for the island of Lampedusa to be swamped by sub-Saharan Africans who in a couple of days wound up outnumbering the locals three-to-one. On the crude arithmetic my guests were explaining, what's to stop that becoming the ratio of the entire continent?</p>
<p>But hey, what's the big deal? The hack pontiff was in Marseilles to finger-wag:</p>
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<blockquote><p><i>"Those who risk their lives at sea do not invade, they look for welcome, for life" he<span> </span><a href="https://www.euronews.com/2023/09/23/pope-francis-insists-europe-doesnt-have-a-migrant-emergency-and-challenges-countries-to-op" target="_blank" rel="noopener">said</a>. "As for the emergency, the phenomenon of migration is not so much a short-term urgency, always good for fueling alarmist propaganda, but a reality of our times."</i></p>
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<p>"Alarmist propaganda"? Pro-tip to the lads on Lampedusa: As soon as you're admitted to the European mainland, make your way to this tiny statelet called "the Vatican" and invite Il Papa to implement a Lampedusa-style pilot programme on his own turf.</p>
<p>~By the way, this was the first papal visit to France's second largest city in half-a-century. What's changed in that time? Well, the "eldest daughter of the church" has all but<span> </span><a href="https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2022/09/13/anatomist-of-the-catholic-collapse-in-france-and-beyond/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">entirely abandoned Catholicism</a>. Thousands of beautiful medieval churches are reduced to<span> </span><a href="https://www.ucanews.com/news/french-report-warns-of-danger-to-historic-churches/98124" target="_blank" rel="noopener">unused state mausoleums emptied of their faith</a>. Every day at least two of those churches are vandalised - smashed, burned, the holy statuary<span> </span><a href="https://international.la-croix.com/news/religion/whats-behind-the-church-vandalism-in-france/17703" target="_blank" rel="noopener">very purposefully decapitated</a>. Every fortnight one of these houses of (increasingly occasional) worship is<span> </span><a href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/247514/why-france-is-losing-one-religious-building-every-two-weeks" target="_blank" rel="noopener">destroyed</a>.</p>
<p>Why don't you do something about<span> </span><i>that</i>, Your Holiness?</p>
<p>Because the death of the Church, unlike European immigration policy, is on<span> </span><i>you</i>. And, if you get your way on your alleged all-male "refugees", those vandalism numbers are going to soar, and that epidemic of church desecration will accelerate. But no doubt a resurgent Islam will be as grateful to you for paving its way as it is to those pathetic headless statues.</p>
<p>I apologise for calling the useless wanker pontiff a useless wanker pontiff, but it is hard to have anything but utter contempt for a man who thinks it groovy to assist in the suicide of Christendom rather than defend his faith.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.steynonline.com/13789/surrendering-christendom" target="_blank">https://www.steynonline.com/13789/surrendering-christendom</a></p>
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</div> In the last years of his life…tag:4freedoms.com,2021-03-16:3766518:Comment:2723332021-03-16T11:00:26.864ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>In the last years of his life my dad used to doorstep his priest after mass, asking "why is it you condemn gays but you won't say a word against Islam"?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/vatican-calls-homosexuality-sin-refuses-bless-same-sex-unions" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/vatican-calls-homosexuality-sin...</a></p>
<p>Quite simple - for 50 years the Vatican has been a sect of Islam. Here's "conservative" Pope John Paul II…</p>
<p>In the last years of his life my dad used to doorstep his priest after mass, asking "why is it you condemn gays but you won't say a word against Islam"?</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/vatican-calls-homosexuality-sin-refuses-bless-same-sex-unions" target="_blank">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/vatican-calls-homosexuality-sin...</a></p>
<p>Quite simple - for 50 years the Vatican has been a sect of Islam. Here's "conservative" Pope John Paul II kissing the Koran in 1999.</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8672442667?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8672442667?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-right"/></a>Almost impossible to find any reference to this event and I found only one location on the internet with that image.</p> Pope says populism is egotism…tag:4freedoms.com,2017-03-25:3766518:Comment:1863212017-03-25T11:17:30.469ZAntonyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Antony
<p>Pope says populism is egotism ; <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/25/in-speech-to-european-leaders-pope-francis-blasts-populism-as-egotism/" target="_blank">http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/25/in-speech-to-european-leaders-pope-francis-blasts-populism-as-egotism/</a></p>
<p>Pope says populism is egotism ; <a href="http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/25/in-speech-to-european-leaders-pope-francis-blasts-populism-as-egotism/" target="_blank">http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/25/in-speech-to-european-leaders-pope-francis-blasts-populism-as-egotism/</a></p>