Tell MAMA/Fiyaz Mughal is “Racialising” Muslims & Islam - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-29T08:06:43Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/tell-mama-fiyaz-mughal-is-racialising-muslims-islam?groupUrl=infiltration&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A145526&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A108729&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIslam could not have taken of…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-02-25:3766518:Comment:1455272014-02-25T08:59:34.095ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>Islam could not have taken off, without Mohd killing those who criticised/mocked him. Huge numbers of those he assassinated were satirical poets who made fun of him.</p>
<p><a href="http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad" target="_blank">http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad</a></p>
<p>Muslims have learned from this. They know that what Mohd did worked, so they slavishly copy his example. </p>
<p>Thus for muslims,…</p>
<p>Islam could not have taken off, without Mohd killing those who criticised/mocked him. Huge numbers of those he assassinated were satirical poets who made fun of him.</p>
<p><a href="http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad" target="_blank">http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad</a></p>
<p>Muslims have learned from this. They know that what Mohd did worked, so they slavishly copy his example. </p>
<p>Thus for muslims, criticism of islam/mohd = blasphemy, and must be stopped using murder until people are too terrified to criticise any more.</p> Blasphemy law is written into…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-02-25:3766518:Comment:1455262014-02-25T08:40:20.616ZPaul Austin Murphyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PaulAustinMurphy
<p>Blasphemy law is written into Islam. In a sense, Muslims can't do a thing about it. (I don't buy the Ahmadiyya anyway. They are using their minority status to sell.... yes, Islam from yet another angle.)</p>
<p>The other thing is that the truth about Islam would destroy it. Again, Muslims have no choice but to agitate for blasphemy law. Not to do so would be suicidal.</p>
<p>Blasphemy law is written into Islam. In a sense, Muslims can't do a thing about it. (I don't buy the Ahmadiyya anyway. They are using their minority status to sell.... yes, Islam from yet another angle.)</p>
<p>The other thing is that the truth about Islam would destroy it. Again, Muslims have no choice but to agitate for blasphemy law. Not to do so would be suicidal.</p> Even the Ahmadis, who Tommy R…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-02-25:3766518:Comment:1453712014-02-25T08:33:32.580ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>Even the Ahmadis, who Tommy Robinson talks up as "moderates, the kind of muslims we want", even they demand that non-muslims stop <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">criticising</span> blaspheming islam. Meanwhile, the Ahmadis publish and distribute books where they say "Jesus is not the son of god" (thus saying that there is no religion called "christianity").</p>
<p>Muslims in Britain were pushing to make criticism of islam illegal for about 15 years before they finally got the…</p>
<p>Even the Ahmadis, who Tommy Robinson talks up as "moderates, the kind of muslims we want", even they demand that non-muslims stop <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">criticising</span> blaspheming islam. Meanwhile, the Ahmadis publish and distribute books where they say "Jesus is not the son of god" (thus saying that there is no religion called "christianity").</p>
<p>Muslims in Britain were pushing to make criticism of islam illegal for about 15 years before they finally got the 2006 Religious Hatred Act. They know that they must stop the kafirs from being able to warn eachother (and future generations) about what islam has in store for non-muslims.</p>
<p>There are no "moderate muslims". There are apostates, and there are ignorant muslims. The rest are all "extremists", supremacists who "know" it is their "god-given" right to subjugate non-muslims.</p>
<p>A few years ago, Lord Ahmed stormed out of a meeting in Parliament, and as he left he said "if that's your definition of an islamist, then I am an islamist". <a href="http://www.israellycool.com/2012/04/16/if-thats-your-definition-of-islamist-i-am-an-islamist-lord-ahmed/" target="_blank">http://www.israellycool.com/2012/04/16/if-thats-your-definition-of-islamist-i-am-an-islamist-lord-ahmed/</a></p>
<p>There is no history of a doctrine of islamophobia, whose followers threaten to kill muslims, and then follow up on their threats. But there is a history of muslims following up on their kuffarphobic threats to kill kafirs. It is islam which should be banned, not people criticising islam/muslims on Twitter.</p>
<p>Remember the recent statement by the Muslim Council of Britain, who said if muslims are not treated better in Britain there will be 3 million muslim terrorists in Britain.</p>
<p>The Chasm is opening wider all the time. People like Fiyaz Mughal must see this too. I wish I could find a copy of that statement after 7/7, where our friend basically said that 7/7 was the fault of the British people for being racist towards muslims.</p>
<p>These muslims have had an easy ride for 20 years or more. And it is clear in the last few years, that is coming to an end. They managed to infiltrate so many institutions and bend them to their will. But EDL has focused the views of millions of people in Britain.<br/> <br/> <cite>Paul Austin Murphy said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/tell-mama-fiyaz-mughal-is-racialising-muslims-islam?groupUrl=infiltration&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A145411&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A108729#3766518Comment145411"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p><i id="yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1390314425667_2243">"Now unless there is a direct threat to somebody on Twitter or Facebook, the CPS [Crown Prosecution Sevice] will not prosecute. The CPS is just plainly out of sync with reality."</i></p>
<p>This quote from Fiyaz Mughal is incredible. This is a clear admittance that he wants sharia blasphemy law. Here he openly admits that he's not talking about violence or even "direct threats to somebody". He is talking about criticism of Islam and the criticism of Muslims (as Muslims).</p>
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<p><i id="yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1390314425667_2243">"Now unless there is a direct threat to somebody on Twitter or Facebook, the CPS [Crown Prosecution Sevice] will not prosecute. The CPS is just plainly out of sync with reality."</i></p>
<p>This quote from Fiyaz Mughal is incredible. This is a clear admittance that he wants sharia blasphemy law. Here he openly admits that he's not talking about violence or even "direct threats to somebody". He is talking about criticism of Islam and the criticism…</p>
<p><i id="yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1390314425667_2243">"Now unless there is a direct threat to somebody on Twitter or Facebook, the CPS [Crown Prosecution Sevice] will not prosecute. The CPS is just plainly out of sync with reality."</i></p>
<p>This quote from Fiyaz Mughal is incredible. This is a clear admittance that he wants sharia blasphemy law. Here he openly admits that he's not talking about violence or even "direct threats to somebody". He is talking about criticism of Islam and the criticism of Muslims (as Muslims).</p> I think he's playing the vict…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-02-24:3766518:Comment:1453522014-02-24T18:15:55.018ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>I think he's playing the victim. It's all in The Life of Mohammed. Mohammed was passive-aggressive <em>par excellence</em>. </p>
<p>Islam encourages muslims to play the victim, even when they are the aggressor. Muslims blaspheme against other religions, then demand that no-one hurts their feelings by blaspheming against islam.</p>
<p>Bruce Bawer has a story about how he and his boyfriend were abused and than assaulted by a muslim man. After they'd pulled themselves together, they went to…</p>
<p>I think he's playing the victim. It's all in The Life of Mohammed. Mohammed was passive-aggressive <em>par excellence</em>. </p>
<p>Islam encourages muslims to play the victim, even when they are the aggressor. Muslims blaspheme against other religions, then demand that no-one hurts their feelings by blaspheming against islam.</p>
<p>Bruce Bawer has a story about how he and his boyfriend were abused and than assaulted by a muslim man. After they'd pulled themselves together, they went to the police to report it. Only the muslim got there first, and claimed they'd abused him. The police told Bawer, "they do this all the time".</p>
<p>When people know the tricks and turns of Mohammed's life, all these things become predictable. Muslims are told to emulate Mohammed - and that doesn't mean just "pray like he did", it means "follow all the deceit and violence he did".</p>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Paul Austin Murphy said:</cite></p>
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<p>So what do you think he's playing at with the satellite link? My theory may be wrong, of course.</p>
<p>You could do with passing all this stuff onto Tim Burton; though I suppose he won't want to be burdened down with too much info. You have been aware of FM since 2010. I think that Tim only became aware of FM just before he reported him - which is a good intro.</p>
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So what do you think he'…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-02-24:3766518:Comment:1454102014-02-24T17:28:19.114ZPaul Austin Murphyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PaulAustinMurphy
<p>Joe,</p>
<p>So what do you think he's playing at with the satellite link? My theory may be wrong, of course.</p>
<p>You could do with passing all this stuff onto Tim Burton; though I suppose he won't want to be burdened down with too much info. You have been aware of FM since 2010. I think that Tim only became aware of FM just before he reported him - which is a good intro.</p>
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<p>So what do you think he's playing at with the satellite link? My theory may be wrong, of course.</p>
<p>You could do with passing all this stuff onto Tim Burton; though I suppose he won't want to be burdened down with too much info. You have been aware of FM since 2010. I think that Tim only became aware of FM just before he reported him - which is a good intro.</p>
<p></p> When the Home Affairs Select…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-02-24:3766518:Comment:1454092014-02-24T10:19:39.805ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>When the Home Affairs Select Committee investigated the grooming gangs, they asked why it was that the schoolgirls who had been brainwashed, raped, prostituted -- and who lived under threats of violence (and actual violence) to them and their families -- had NOT been granted facilities like appearing in court via video link or testifying by recorded cross-examination.</p>
<p>For decades, if those girls managed to get the police to listen to them, and it went to court, they would endure…</p>
<p>When the Home Affairs Select Committee investigated the grooming gangs, they asked why it was that the schoolgirls who had been brainwashed, raped, prostituted -- and who lived under threats of violence (and actual violence) to them and their families -- had NOT been granted facilities like appearing in court via video link or testifying by recorded cross-examination.</p>
<p>For decades, if those girls managed to get the police to listen to them, and it went to court, they would endure threats from the rapists/pimps for months, then have to face them in court, with the muslims' barristers basically implying that the schoolgirls were "lying sluts". Because of these conditions, the CPS didn't expect the girls to be able to testify adequately. But rather than change the trial conditions, the CPS just spend decades refusing to proceed with prosecutions.<br/><br/>So now we have a grown man, a graduate with an OBE, a councillor who wanted to be Mayor of London - a man who has had no threats from the accused - demanding to be given the kind of protection that was sysematically denied to the schoolgirl victims of the Muslim grooming gangs.<br/><br/>And did Fiyaz Mughal's "conflict resolution" organisation fund an investigation into the grooming gangs? Did Faith Matters create a hotline so the victims of the grooming gangs could report their abuse? No. But on the week when the first truly major grooming trial started, Fiyaz Mughal launched "Tell Mama" - and the BBC ensured that during the first week of that grooming trial, Tell Mama got more news coverage than the grooming trial. And at the conclusion of that grooming trial, did Faith Matters issue a statement expressing pity or outrage for the schoolgirl victims? No, the "conflict resolution" organisation just bleated about how "the far right" was using such grooming trials to "attack" muslims.</p> The court appearance of Tim B…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-02-24:3766518:Comment:1452572014-02-24T07:50:42.567ZPaul Austin Murphyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/PaulAustinMurphy
<div style="color: #000000; font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">The court appearance of Tim Burton and Fiyaz Mughal has been put forward six weeks (from 18th Feb).…</div>
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<div style="color: #000000; font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">The court appearance of Tim Burton and Fiyaz Mughal has been put forward six weeks (from 18th Feb).</div>
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<div id="yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1393227948023_2781" style="color: #000000; font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Also, Mughal's latest gimmick is that he claims to be too frightened to appear in person because of the Tweets from Tim Burton. None of those Tweets contained threats of violence and they were all aimed at Tell Mama, not Fiyaz Mughal. Thus he wants to appear at court via satellite link from an undisclosed location!</div>
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<div style="color: #000000; font-size: 18.6667px; font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span id="yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1393227948023_2786">The judge and your lawyers should be told that this is what he's doing. He believes that a satellite link will help him; whereas a court appearance in the flesh won't.</span></div> Before it was hived off into…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-01-21:3766518:Comment:1438212014-01-21T11:51:15.117ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>Before it was hived off into a separate Bill, the provisions of the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill (RRHB) were an adjunct to a Terrorism Bill. If they had not been separated out, it would have made clear that in muslims using islam as a justification to kill non-muslims in Britain, non-muslims might respond with violence or threatening words. </p>
<p><strong>Most people now forget that the prohibition of criticism of islam in the RRHB was instituted in direct response to muslims…</strong></p>
<p>Before it was hived off into a separate Bill, the provisions of the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill (RRHB) were an adjunct to a Terrorism Bill. If they had not been separated out, it would have made clear that in muslims using islam as a justification to kill non-muslims in Britain, non-muslims might respond with violence or threatening words. </p>
<p><strong>Most people now forget that the prohibition of criticism of islam in the RRHB was instituted in direct response to muslims performing islamically-motivated murder in Britain.</strong></p>
<p>Since the RRHB went on to protect all religions (and non-religious belief) from threatening behaviour, I see no reason why the koran itself and muslim gatherings are not subject to it (as your link to Stephen Green points out). When the country decides it is time to start the process of banning islam, the application of the RRHA to muslims and islam will serve as the first step in that process.<br/><br/>I suggest you also look at the article on Faith Matters here: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.jdl-uk.org/2013/03/cst-is-betraying-jewish-community.html" target="_blank">http://www.jdl-uk.org/2013/03/cst-is-betraying-jewish-community.html</a><br/><br/>I'm proud to say, I was drawing attention to Fiyaz Mughal's shenanigans back in 2010 (when he set up a do-nothing "Muslims Against Anti-semitism" group to appear to do something when Panorama exposed that 5000 muslim kids a week were being taught to kill gays and that jews were animals). Nobody else appeared to be aware of what he was up to then, but in the following months I had evidence of exactly how he operated. <br/><br/>I was also the first person to draw attention to the support of the media's go-to "moderate muslim" Mohammed Shafiq running an organisation whose "spiritual advisor" said that gays should be killed. Direct attempts to get mainstream journalists like Andrew Gilligan to pay attention to the behaviour of Fiyaz Mughal and Mohammed Shafiq came to naught. Journalists seemed to have zero interest in having the evidence given to them on a plate. It was only by me drawing the Ramadhan Foundation to Tommy's attention and him tweeting it, that Mohammed Shafiq showed some embarrassment, and said that the "kill gays" cleric was no longer the spiritual advisor of the Ramadhan Foundation (they've now removed that man from their "Advisory Board": <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ramadhanfoundation.com/advisoryboard.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ramadhanfoundation.com/advisoryboard.htm</a>) </p>
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