The Fall of Constantinople / Istanbul - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-29T07:55:39Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/the-fall-of-constantinople?groupUrl=turkey&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A275234&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A837&feed=yes&xn_auth=notag:4freedoms.com,2023-10-05:3766518:Comment:2792752023-10-05T00:36:15.330ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/eFdC5Rm_im0?si=OayzlmvxsYr193Sr&wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe> Two hundred years before the…tag:4freedoms.com,2022-07-06:3766518:Comment:2754922022-07-06T17:20:43.714ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Two hundred years before the fall of Constantinople. The sacking of that city by the 4th crusade contains so many lessons about kuffar allegiance and fiscal drivers. It seems like we haven't learned anything in the last 800 years. </p>
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<p>Two hundred years before the fall of Constantinople. The sacking of that city by the 4th crusade contains so many lessons about kuffar allegiance and fiscal drivers. It seems like we haven't learned anything in the last 800 years. </p>
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<iframe width="456" height="256" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pVJG2Agyv2U?wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe> Then if you look down the las…tag:4freedoms.com,2021-08-30:3766518:Comment:2733482021-08-30T14:57:25.949ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><span>Then if you look down the last list of Byzantine emperors here, the Palaiologan dynasty, most of the reigns are short, up until 1453 when Constantinople fell to the Muslims.</span></p>
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<p><span>So I don't think Islam defeated Byzantium; I think the Christians defeated themselves, with decadence, corruption and infighting. Does that feel anything like…</span></p>
<p><span>Then if you look down the last list of Byzantine emperors here, the Palaiologan dynasty, most of the reigns are short, up until 1453 when Constantinople fell to the Muslims.</span></p>
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<p><span>So I don't think Islam defeated Byzantium; I think the Christians defeated themselves, with decadence, corruption and infighting. Does that feel anything like today? like Afghanistan?</span></p> Justinian the 1st was emperor…tag:4freedoms.com,2021-08-30:3766518:Comment:2733472021-08-30T14:56:07.121ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><span>Justinian the 1st was emperor of Byzantium from 527 to 565 CE. There is a recently released secret history of the time written by Procopius, from the Vatican archives. It is an amazing story of the depravity of the time - a time just 5 years before Mohammed was born.</span></p>
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<p><span>Justinian the 1st was emperor of Byzantium from 527 to 565 CE. There is a recently released secret history of the time written by Procopius, from the Vatican archives. It is an amazing story of the depravity of the time - a time just 5 years before Mohammed was born.</span></p>
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<p>Dec 23rd 1999 |<a href="http://www.economist.com/printedition/1999-12-25">From the print edition</a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">GREEKS still consider Tuesday an unlucky day. May 29th 1453, was a Tuesday; the day that Constantinople, the place they called—and often still call—the queen of cities, or simply “the city” was overrun by the Ottoman forces that had bombarded its mighty walls for the past 40 days.</span></p>
<p>In the history of warfare,…</p>
<p>The fall of Constantinople</p>
<p>Dec 23rd 1999 |<a href="http://www.economist.com/printedition/1999-12-25">From the print edition</a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">GREEKS still consider Tuesday an unlucky day. May 29th 1453, was a Tuesday; the day that Constantinople, the place they called—and often still call—the queen of cities, or simply “the city” was overrun by the Ottoman forces that had bombarded its mighty walls for the past 40 days.</span></p>
<p>In the history of warfare, this was a watershed. It proved that gunpowder could batter down the strongest walls enough to let the attackers in; the age of immobile, iron-clad soldiers defending big stone fortresses was over. But far more was over than that.</p>
<p>The Byzantine defenders and their Venetian and Genoese allies had noticed portents since the lunar eclipse a week earlier. An icon of the Virgin Mary slipped from its platform as it was carried through the city; then a thunderstorm halted the procession. As dusk fell on May 28th, the Emperor Constantine warned his subjects they might have to sacrifice their lives for the faith, family, country and sovereign. The clergy—bitterly divided by doctrine, as Christianity's 400-year-old east-west schism deepened—put aside their differences to hold an evening service in Saint Sophia, the greatest church of eastern Christendom.</p>
<p>In the small hours next day, the final assault began, with a deafening noise of trumpets, drums and war-cries. The Genoese ran down to the sea after their commander was wounded; eventually a dozen Greek and Italian ships, laden with terrified refugees, reached the open sea. The besiegers—the irregular, ill-trained bashi-bazouks and the elite janissaries—poured in.</p>
<p>Smashing through the great bronze doors, they burst into the morning service at Saint Sophia. The worshippers were massacred or captured; many priests died by the altar. Later Sultan Mehmet, the impulsive 21-year-old who had flouted all his elders' advice in besieging the best-defended city in Europe, walked into the building and ordered an imam to claim it for the Muslim faith. But he stopped a soldier hacking at the marble pavings: looting—for one day, not the usual three—all right, but not vandalism.</p>
<p>Mehmet also took care to preserve intact the city's second most-important church, that of the Holy Apostles, and hand it to the Greek Orthodox patriarch. Though much misused by the temporal authorities, the patriarchate survived as an institution for administering the Greek and other Orthodox Christian communities in the new multinational empire. As a strange side-effect of the Muslim conquest, the doctrinal integrity of eastern Christendom was preserved: instead of the compromises with the Vatican that might otherwise have been inevitable, the patriarchate was able to hold to its view on the issues, such as the nature of the Trinity, that had led to so much bitter argument.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, the political capital of eastern Orthodoxy moved northwards to Russia, where patriots proclaimed that Moscow had become the third Rome after the conquest of Byzantium, which itself had been known as the new Rome.</p>
<p>The fall of Constantinople brought to a head many trends already under way. One was the slide of the Byzantine empire's power, as the loss of Anatolian lands left it short of revenue and recruits, and thus more dependent on fickle Italian allies; another the flight of Greek scholars (particularly brilliant in Byzantium's final years) to Italy, where they helped to stimulate the Renaissance.</p>
<p>Yet another was the emergent contest in south-eastern Europe between the Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman empires. The Turks were besieging Vienna in 1683 and repeatedly at war with Russia or Austria in the 130 years thereafter. They held southern Greece until 1832, today's Bulgaria, Romania, Bosnia and nominally Serbia until 1878, the lands south of these down to liberated Greece until 1913. Hence the Muslim pockets—Albania, Bosnia—that for most Europeans today are the only reminder that the country they see as a source of cheap, resented, migrant labour was once a mighty power in Europe.</p>
<p>But a part of Europe? Allied with Germany in the first world war, and therefore stripped of their remaining Middle Eastern empire, the Turks by 1922 were strong enough again to drive Greece's troops, and centuries of Greek society, from Anatolia. Old enmities were resharpened by the Turkish invasion of northern Cyprus in 1974. If the European Union still hesitates, despite Turkey's decades inside NATO, about its wish for EU membership too, the real reasons lie centuries deep; not least in 1453.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/printedition/1999-12-25">From the print edition: Europe</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/node/346800?story_id=346800">http://www.economist.com/node/346800?story_id=346800</a></p> Constantinople - the Theodoss…tag:4freedoms.com,2011-07-04:3766518:Comment:601072011-07-04T23:43:38.466ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
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[edit] Divided empire, 395–527<br />
Theodosius I was the last Roman emperor who ruled over an undivided empire (detail from the Obelisk at the Hippodrome of Constantinople<br />
The first known Prefect of the City of Constantinople was Honoratus, who took office on 11 December 359 and held it until 361. The emperor Valens built the Palace of Hebdomon on the shore of the Propontis near the Golden Gate, probably for use when reviewing troops. All the emperors up to Zeno and Basiliscus were crowned and…
[edit] Divided empire, 395–527<br />
Theodosius I was the last Roman emperor who ruled over an undivided empire (detail from the Obelisk at the Hippodrome of Constantinople<br />
The first known Prefect of the City of Constantinople was Honoratus, who took office on 11 December 359 and held it until 361. The emperor Valens built the Palace of Hebdomon on the shore of the Propontis near the Golden Gate, probably for use when reviewing troops. All the emperors up to Zeno and Basiliscus were crowned and acclaimed at the Hebdomon. Theodosius I founded the Church of John the Baptist to house the skull of the saint (today preserved at the Topkapı Palace in Istanbul, Turkey), put up a memorial pillar to himself in the Forum of Taurus, and turned the ruined temple of Aphrodite into a coach house for the Praetorian Prefect; Arcadius built a new forum named after himself on the Mese, near the walls of Constantine.<br />
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Gradually the importance of Constantinople increased. After the shock of the Battle of Adrianople in 378, in which the emperor Valens with the flower of the Roman armies was destroyed by the Visigoths within a few days' march, the city looked to its defences, and Theodosius II built in 413–414 the 18 metre (60 ft) tall triple-wall fortifications which were never to be breached until the coming of gunpowder. Theodosius also founded a University near the Forum of Taurus, on 27 February 425.<br />
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Uldin, a prince of the Huns, appeared on the Danube about this time and advanced into Thrace, but he was deserted by many of his followers, who joined with the Romans in driving their king back north of the river. Subsequently new walls were built to defend the city, and the fleet on the Danube improved. Money spoke louder, however, and in 424 Theodosius agreed to pay an annual subsidy to the new Hunnish king Rugila. The latter was shortly succeeded by Attila, who negotiated a doubling of the subsidy. In 441 he took the opportunity to attack while the Roman armies were engaged against both the Persian and the Vandals, and after a successful battle in Thrace not far from the city, secured a further trebling of the subsidy. He invaded again in 447; the Roman response was an assassination attempt, which failed. On 25 August 450 Marcian succeeded Theodosius, and determined to take a firm line with the Huns, stopping the subsidy payments; about the same time Attila received a message from Honoria, a sister of the western Emperor Valentinian III, which he was able to take advantage of as a pretext, and departed from Illyricum to move with all his armies against the West[9].<br />
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Meanwhile the barbarians overran the Western Empire, its emperors retreated to Ravenna, and it diminished to nothing. Thereafter, Constantinople became in truth the largest city of the Empire and of the world. Emperors were no longer peripatetic between various court capitals and palaces. They remained in their palace in the Great City, and sent generals to command their armies. The wealth of the Eastern Mediterranean and Western Asia flowed into Constantinople.<br />
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Map of Constantinople (1422) by Florentine cartographer Cristoforo Buondelmonti [10] is the oldest surviving map of the city, and the only one which antedates the Turkish conquest of the city in 1453<br />
The emperor Justinian I (527–565) was known for his successes in war, for his legal reforms and for his public works. It was from Constantinople that his expedition for the reconquest of the former Diocese of Africa set sail on or about 21 June 533. Before their departure the ship of the commander Belisarius anchored in front of the Imperial palace, and the Patriarch offered prayers for the success of the enterprise. After the victory, in 534, the Temple treasure of Jerusalem, looted by the Romans in 70 AD and taken to Carthage by the Vandals after their sack of Rome in 455, was brought to Constantinople and deposited for a time, perhaps in the church of St Polyeuctus, before being returned to Jerusalem in either the Church of the Resurrection or the New Church.[11]<br />
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St Sophia, built by emperor Justinian I in the 6th century AD, still stands today in Istanbul, Turkey. The minarets are a later, Islamic addition.<br />
Chariot-racing had been important in Rome for centuries. In Constantinople, the hippodrome became over time increasingly a place of political significance. It was where (as a shadow of the popular elections of old Rome) the people by acclamation showed their approval of a new emperor; and also where they openly criticized the government, or clamoured for the removal of unpopular ministers. In the time of Justinian, public order in Constantinople became a critical political issue.<br />
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The entire late Roman and early Byzantine period was one where Christianity was resolving fundamental questions of identity, and the dispute between the orthodox and the monophysites became the cause of serious disorder, expressed through allegiance to the horse-racing parties of the Blues and the Greens. The partisans of the Blues and the Greens were said [12]to affect untrimmed facial hair, head hair shaved at the front and grown long at the back, and wide-sleeved tunics tight at the wrist; and to form gangs to engage in night-time muggings and street violence. At last these disorders took the form of a major rebellion of 532, known as the "Nika" riots (from the battle-cry of "Victory!" of those involved).<br />
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Fires started by the Nika rioters consumed the basilica of St Sophia, the city's principal church. Justinian commissioned Anthemius of Tralles and Isidore of Miletus to replace it with a new and incomparable St Sophia, located at the north side of the Augusteum. This was the great cathedral of the Orthodox Church, whose dome was said to be held aloft by God alone, and which was directly connected to the palace so that the imperial family could attend services without passing through the streets.[13] The dedication took place on 26 December 537 in the presence of the emperor, who exclaimed, "O Solomon, I have outdone thee!"[14] Hagia Sophia was served by 600 people including 80 priests, and cost 20,000 pounds of gold to build.[15]<br />
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Justinian also had Anthemius and Isidore demolish and replace the original Church of the Holy Apostles, built by Constantine, with a new church under the same dedication. This was designed in the form of an equally-armed cross with five domes, and ornamented with beautiful mosaics. This church was to remain the burial place of the emperors from Constantine himself until the eleventh century. When the city fell to the Turks in 1453, the church was demolished to make room for the tomb of Mehmet II the Conqueror. Justinian was also concerned with other aspects of the city's built environment, legislating against the abuse of laws prohibiting building within 100 feet (30 m) of the sea front, in order to protect the view[16].<br />
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During Justinian I's reign, the city's population reached about 500,000 people. However, the social fabric of Constantinople was also damaged by the onset of bubonic plague between 541–542 AD.<br />
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Although Constantinople was retaken by Michael VIII, the empire had lost many of its key economic resources, and struggled to survive. The palace of Blachernae in the north-west of the city became the main imperial residence, with the old Great Palace on the shores of the Bosporus going into decline. When Michael VIII captured the city, its population was 35,000 people, but by the end of his reign, he succeeded in increasing the population to about 70,000 people.[31] The Emperor achieved this by summoning former residents back who had fled the city when the Crusaders captured it during the Fourth Crusade and by relocating Greeks from the recently reconquered Peloponnese to the capital.[32] In 1453, Constantinople contained approximately 50,000 people when the Ottoman Turks captured the city.[33]