The Stupidity of Terrorism Experts - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-29T15:22:52Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/the-stupidity-of-terrorism-experts?groupUrl=terrorism&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A178864&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOh dear, that text has got pr…tag:4freedoms.com,2016-05-24:3766518:Comment:1788642016-05-24T20:16:13.369ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Oh dear, that text has got pretty garbled. We actually have a copy of that book already on 4F:</p>
<p><a href="http://4freedoms.com/group/books/forum/topics/actual-books?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A74713&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A19570" target="_blank">http://4freedoms.com/group/books/forum/topics/actual-books?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A74713&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A19570</a></p>
<p>Oh dear, that text has got pretty garbled. We actually have a copy of that book already on 4F:</p>
<p><a href="http://4freedoms.com/group/books/forum/topics/actual-books?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A74713&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A19570" target="_blank">http://4freedoms.com/group/books/forum/topics/actual-books?commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A74713&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A19570</a></p> Intelligence analysts in the…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-09-10:3766518:Comment:1704442015-09-10T06:27:56.436ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>Intelligence analysts in the US are claiming that their pessimistic reports about the ability to contain IS are being re-written to conform with Obama's claim that his initiatives are winning.</p>
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<p>Intelligence analysts in the US are claiming that their pessimistic reports about the ability to contain IS are being re-written to conform with Obama's claim that his initiatives are winning.</p>
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<p>Here's more:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/09/exclusive-50-spies-say-isis-intelligence-was-cooked.html?via=ios#pq=P1yhE1" target="_blank">http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/09/exclusive-50-spies-say-isis-intelligence-was-cooked.html?via=ios#pq=P1yhE1</a></p>
<p>So, Blain has his "sexed up" dossier which justifies war in Iraq. Later Blair says he knew nothing of islam when in office. Organisations like RUSI laugh at IS and tell The Demos: don't take it seriously. The Muslim PoTUS has intelligence repots rewritten. Clinton hangs out Ambassador & soldiers to be killed in Benghazi.</p>
<p>And still the Anointed, the Elite, carry on unscathed.</p> So, a couple of months ago so…tag:4freedoms.com,2014-12-01:3766518:Comment:1586212014-12-01T01:13:19.716ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>So, a couple of months ago some retired General, now some kind of Prof. at RUSI, said that even a 2nd year student at a military academy could devise a strategy to destroy ISIS/the Caliphate.</p>
<p>Yet here we are 2 months later, and the media are admitting that the air strikes against the devout muslims are having absolutely no effect.…</p>
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<p>So, a couple of months ago some retired General, now some kind of Prof. at RUSI, said that even a 2nd year student at a military academy could devise a strategy to destroy ISIS/the Caliphate.</p>
<p>Yet here we are 2 months later, and the media are admitting that the air strikes against the devout muslims are having absolutely no effect.</p>
<p class="p1"><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30257783" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30257783</a></p>
<p class="p1">It seems that every single time an expert from RUSI opens his mouth he puts his foot in it. Yet as Thomas Sowell points out, the Anointed are never held to account when their predictions prove to be 100% wrong.</p> Considering the number of new…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-12:3766518:Comment:1236082013-05-12T00:13:12.010ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>Considering the number of newspaper articles, TV programmes, university departments, academic experts, muslim groups, bloggers, activists... expressing opinions about EDL, you would think that some of them at the very least detailed the policy statements of EDL and compared and contrasted them with Hizb ut Tahrir, MPAC, SWP, Respect, BNP, LibDems, Islam4UK, etc, and <strong>actually informed the public about the details</strong> of why some of these groups are considered "extreme" and others…</p>
<p>Considering the number of newspaper articles, TV programmes, university departments, academic experts, muslim groups, bloggers, activists... expressing opinions about EDL, you would think that some of them at the very least detailed the policy statements of EDL and compared and contrasted them with Hizb ut Tahrir, MPAC, SWP, Respect, BNP, LibDems, Islam4UK, etc, and <strong>actually informed the public about the details</strong> of why some of these groups are considered "extreme" and others are considered "moderate".</p>
<p>But all that money, and all those words, are actually not about information. They are about noise and thought control.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>Kinana said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/the-stupidity-of-terrorism-experts?groupUrl=terrorism&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A123605&xg_source=activity&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A95907#3766518Comment123605"><div><p>The experts describe the EDL as an ‘extremist group’. The experts describe the Islamist as ‘extremists’. And both are on ‘two sides of an extreme equation’. </p>
<p>So are they extreme in different ways or in the same way? </p>
<p>Are the experts supposed to help us understand this threat?</p>
<p>Yes it is ‘complex’ and ‘complicated’. What might focus their collective minds would be if these experts went to every EDL march until they do figure things out; instead of observing from the sidelines and their keyboards.</p>
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</blockquote> The experts describe the EDL…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-11:3766518:Comment:1236052013-05-11T23:56:32.039ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>The experts describe the EDL as an ‘extremist group’. The experts describe the Islamist as ‘extremists’. And both are on ‘two sides of an extreme equation’. </p>
<p>So are they extreme in different ways or in the same way? </p>
<p>Are the experts supposed to help us understand this threat?</p>
<p>Yes it is ‘complex’ and ‘complicated’. What might focus their collective minds would be if these experts went to every EDL march until they do figure things out; instead of observing from the…</p>
<p>The experts describe the EDL as an ‘extremist group’. The experts describe the Islamist as ‘extremists’. And both are on ‘two sides of an extreme equation’. </p>
<p>So are they extreme in different ways or in the same way? </p>
<p>Are the experts supposed to help us understand this threat?</p>
<p>Yes it is ‘complex’ and ‘complicated’. What might focus their collective minds would be if these experts went to every EDL march until they do figure things out; instead of observing from the sidelines and their keyboards.</p> Until the 'experts' are prepa…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-11:3766518:Comment:1235322013-05-11T06:16:44.353ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Until the 'experts' are prepared to consider the political ideology that motivates terrorist actions, and target the books and leaders of that ideology, they will always be re-active and post-<span class="GINGER_SOFATWARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct">hoc</span>. Till then, we may as well all go back to sleep and just hope that we aren't in a carriage that gets blown up.</p>
<p>Until the 'experts' are prepared to consider the political ideology that motivates terrorist actions, and target the books and leaders of that ideology, they will always be re-active and post-<span class="GINGER_SOFATWARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct">hoc</span>. Till then, we may as well all go back to sleep and just hope that we aren't in a carriage that gets blown up.</p>