It takes a nation to protect the nation
The UN want your children
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Permalink Reply by paul collings on
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Is ban ki-moon starting an orphanage? what would they do with all those poor hollywood kids, esp, charlie sheens. Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase 'lock up your daughter' Now you have to add the 'UN are coming to take her away'. I presume such a power would be used for anyone who shows dissent against the govenment, or anyone who was Islamophobic, or FAR right wing.
And where are the UN going to take the kids, somewhere they,ve made safe, Ivory Coast or Sudan, maybe?. Is it soon to be the United Nations of America. What does it matter, only swapping an 'S' for a'N'.
I,m trying to find out if the CRC applys to the uk. Don,t suppose we,ll find out till after. Thre.ll be no SR99 resolution for us. (This must be signing awaymore of your constitution. )
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