UK - huge Pedophile Ring dismantled - The 4 Freedoms Library
2024-03-29T09:51:07Z
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Thanks for the info Indo
tag:4freedoms.com,2011-04-03:3766518:Comment:49310
2011-04-03T10:54:44.590Z
Heather Gilbert
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Thanks for the info Indo
Thanks for the info Indo
Here you've the Infors, dear…
tag:4freedoms.com,2011-04-03:3766518:Comment:49303
2011-04-03T07:07:18.168Z
Indoeuropean
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Here you've the Infors, dear Heather -> <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_activism#The_Netherlands">Wiki</a> (they tried to lower it, but weren't successful, and now there are the declared - sic - Pedophiles which are trying to lower the Age and allow Sex between Kids - they're Kids - and Adults -> <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_activism#Paedophile_advocacy_groups">Wiki</a>)
Here you've the Infors, dear Heather -> <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_activism#The_Netherlands">Wiki</a> (they tried to lower it, but weren't successful, and now there are the declared - sic - Pedophiles which are trying to lower the Age and allow Sex between Kids - they're Kids - and Adults -> <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_activism#Paedophile_advocacy_groups">Wiki</a>)
Sorry, I don't know the facts…
tag:4freedoms.com,2011-04-03:3766518:Comment:49302
2011-04-03T04:09:01.995Z
Alan Lake
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Sorry, I don't know the facts about lowering the age for Dutch sexual consent. I just know they've got that dodgy party campaigning over there.
Sorry, I don't know the facts about lowering the age for Dutch sexual consent. I just know they've got that dodgy party campaigning over there.
Hi IndoEuropean,
Yes we do ha…
tag:4freedoms.com,2011-04-02:3766518:Comment:48751
2011-04-02T09:19:27.874Z
Heather Gilbert
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<p>Hi IndoEuropean,</p>
<p>Yes we do have organizations for helping the victims of abuse. Fact remains that over 85% of cases are not prosecuted. Of those who are successfully prosecuted, the 'cure' rate is very low. There's something very twisted in the personalities of those who do abuse children. They are in deep denial and most believe that they have done nothing wrong. In many cases, they believe the child actually wanted this to happen. As if sexual molestation were not bad enough in…</p>
<p>Hi IndoEuropean,</p>
<p>Yes we do have organizations for helping the victims of abuse. Fact remains that over 85% of cases are not prosecuted. Of those who are successfully prosecuted, the 'cure' rate is very low. There's something very twisted in the personalities of those who do abuse children. They are in deep denial and most believe that they have done nothing wrong. In many cases, they believe the child actually wanted this to happen. As if sexual molestation were not bad enough in itself, like all abusers, they have the clever knack of making the victim believe that it was their fault. </p>
<p>I'm convinced that a large proportion of judges are paedophiles. The lenient sentences that are handed out to these kretons just beggars belief. Segregating them in prison is so wrong! Placed with other abusers, they normalize their atrocities and compare fantasies. Is it any wonder they don't self reflect on their dysfunctional behaviour?</p>
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<p>Alan I thought Holland had reduced the age of sexual consent to age twelve? I remember doing my nut about this about 20 years ago. I don't recall whether the legislation had been passed or whether it was up for discussion?</p>
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Dear Heather, I don't know if…
tag:4freedoms.com,2011-04-02:3766518:Comment:48742
2011-04-02T04:30:26.944Z
Indoeuropean
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<p>Dear Heather, I don't know if you have Organisations devoted to protecting Children, and I don't know if you have a Branch of your Police that fight against (such) Crimes -> it is possible to contact them, as soon as you see something wrong, and report the Fact to them.</p>
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<p>The Business with Sex and with Children got worst -> it became a Racket, and appearently one of the most profitable, together with that of Weapons and Drugs;</p>
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<p>I think that Technology…</p>
<p>Dear Heather, I don't know if you have Organisations devoted to protecting Children, and I don't know if you have a Branch of your Police that fight against (such) Crimes -> it is possible to contact them, as soon as you see something wrong, and report the Fact to them.</p>
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<p>The Business with Sex and with Children got worst -> it became a Racket, and appearently one of the most profitable, together with that of Weapons and Drugs;</p>
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<p>I think that Technology helped to "spread the (evil) Word", and that this Racket and these Rings became huger.</p>
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<p>THE THING IS (WELL KNOW, ONCE YOU GET TO KNOW ABOUT THE PROBLEM), THAT THERE ARE V.I.Ps AND PULBIC FIGURES INVOLVED IN SUCH (A) RING(S),</p>
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<p>and as you know "we are All equal, but someone is more than Others" [sentence from "Animal Farm", by George Orwell, to describe how Justice works when it comes to -> normal Citizens or -> V.I.Ps and public Figures],</p>
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<p>therefore (INTER)NATIONAL Justice could not manage to stop this effectively</p>
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<p>-> and of course, as Alan said, "cultural Justifications", concretely risk to legalize Pedophilia,</p>
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<p>which means, they concretely risk to damage Children's Rights and all these (quite recent) Mouvements devoted to the Protection OF CHILDREN [the most vulnerable Beings (among us), and those most subjected to any kind of (mental, phisical) Abuse].</p>
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<p>Here a greatest Documentary (that first I saw at <a target="_blank" href="http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2009/07/sexual-revolution-c4-kinseys.html">KitmanTV), "60's sexual Revolution", "Kinsey's Pedophiles"</a> -></p>
<p>(on YouTube) <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpN_QTRcrVQ">Part I</a> and <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdze55Aw-gM&feature=related">II</a> and <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcXa0DT3wo&feature=related">III</a> and <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vjj8nsxOAk&feature=related">IV</a> and <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVVgH_t2JX0&feature=related">V</a> [here you see Links to other Documentaries and Documents about the extremely saddening Subject]</p>
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<p>JUST ONE (WE) NEED(S) TO POINT OUT THE EFFECTIVE LACK OF INTERESTS FOR CHILDREN('S RIGHTS), AND A GODDESS WHO APPROACHED THE PROBLEM WAS -> <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.alice-miller.com/index_en.php">Alice Miller</a></p>
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<p>and here copied-pasted from her Site's Homepage:</p>
<h1><em>Child Mistreatment, Child Abuse</em></h1>
<h2><em>What is it?</em></h2>
<p><em>Humiliations, spankings and beatings, slaps in the face, betrayal, sexual exploitation, derision, neglect, etc. are all forms of mistreatment, because they injure the integrity and dignity of a child, even if their consequences are not visible right away. However, as adults, most abused children will suffer, and let others suffer, from these injuries. This dynamic of violence can deform some victims into hangmen who take revenge even on whole nations and become willing executors to dictators as unutterably appalling as Hitler and other cruel leaders.</em></p>
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<p><em>Beaten children very early on assimilate the violence they endured, which they may glorify and apply later as parents, in believing that they deserved the punishment and were beaten out of love. They don't know that the only reason for the punishments they have ( or in retrospect, had) to endure is the fact that their parents themselves endured and learned violence without being able to question it. Later, the adults, once abused children, beat their own children and often feel grateful to their parents who mistreated them when they were small and defenseless.</em></p>
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<p><em>This is why society's ignorance remains so immovable and parents continue to produce severe pain and destructivity - in all "good will", in every generation. Most people tolerate this blindly because the origins of human violence in childhood have been and are still being ignored worldwide. Almost all small children are smacked during the first three years of life when they begin to walk and to touch objects which may not be touched. This happens at exactly the time when the human brain builds up its structure and should thus learn kindness, truthfulness, and love but never, never cruelty and lies. Fortunately, there are many mistreated children who find <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.alice-miller.com/index_en.php?page=2">"helping witnesses"</a> and can feel loved by them.</em></p>
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I think in this case, part of…
tag:4freedoms.com,2011-04-02:3766518:Comment:49038
2011-04-02T03:31:57.409Z
Alan Lake
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<p>I think in this case, part of the problem is the beginning of the 'institutionalisation' of paedophilia in the Netherlands. What I mean by that is the Dutch Martijn party is trying to get under-age sex legalised. This kind of process is very dangerous, because over years, people stop getting shocked by it and start to think its normal. Its like the polygamy concept which Islam is bringing into normality in Europe. So that eventually, later generations will say "well, its not such a big…</p>
<p>I think in this case, part of the problem is the beginning of the 'institutionalisation' of paedophilia in the Netherlands. What I mean by that is the Dutch Martijn party is trying to get under-age sex legalised. This kind of process is very dangerous, because over years, people stop getting shocked by it and start to think its normal. Its like the polygamy concept which Islam is bringing into normality in Europe. So that eventually, later generations will say "well, its not such a big deal".</p>
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<p>The Dutch have let us all down here, by trying so desperately to be "tolerant", and by mis-understanding the nature of free speech and democracy. By extension, we must not relax our guard ourselves, where Islamic movements try to 'normalise' the concept of child sex by frequent repetition over many years.</p>
Absolutely disgusting! The se…
tag:4freedoms.com,2011-04-01:3766518:Comment:49033
2011-04-01T18:52:28.100Z
Heather Gilbert
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<p>Absolutely disgusting! The sentences are way too short for such awful crimes. If you had mentioned a membership of 15 or so, I'd have been expected that, but 70.000 is a staggering number of perverts.</p>
<p>I've often wondered how these people locate each other? I wish the police would recruit the public to infiltrate these sites and get people arrested. I'd gladly do voluntary unpaid work and I'm sure a lot of people would. Was it always this bad, or is it just that it is reported more…</p>
<p>Absolutely disgusting! The sentences are way too short for such awful crimes. If you had mentioned a membership of 15 or so, I'd have been expected that, but 70.000 is a staggering number of perverts.</p>
<p>I've often wondered how these people locate each other? I wish the police would recruit the public to infiltrate these sites and get people arrested. I'd gladly do voluntary unpaid work and I'm sure a lot of people would. Was it always this bad, or is it just that it is reported more these days?</p>