Why Americans Should Know and Care About South Africa - Frontpage Magazine - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-28T15:29:50Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/why-americans-should-know-and-care-about-south-africa-frontpage-m?groupUrl=Africa&commentId=3766518%3AComment%3A121263&groupId=3766518%3AGroup%3A557&feed=yes&xn_auth=nomore info that I do not want…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-08-21:3766518:Comment:1351462013-08-21T12:41:05.081ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>more info that I do not want to believe is true.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804660?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804660?profile=original" width="339" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p>more info that I do not want to believe is true.<a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804660?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/54804660?profile=original" width="339" class="align-full"/></a></p> I've heard from liberal-lefti…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-08:3766518:Comment:1233312013-05-08T23:15:45.333ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>I've heard from liberal-leftist friends who have been to Cape Town that it is fabulous darling, wonderful gay life, blah blah. Sure, Cape Town looks like a spectacular geographical location. I've also had idiot female friends who have met a black south african in the UK, then gone to Joburg on holiday and had the most frightening experiences of their lives.</p>
<p>It's like Lara Logan in Tahrir Square, or those "well-meaning" Pakistani girls from Bolton who were raped in front of their…</p>
<p>I've heard from liberal-leftist friends who have been to Cape Town that it is fabulous darling, wonderful gay life, blah blah. Sure, Cape Town looks like a spectacular geographical location. I've also had idiot female friends who have met a black south african in the UK, then gone to Joburg on holiday and had the most frightening experiences of their lives.</p>
<p>It's like Lara Logan in Tahrir Square, or those "well-meaning" Pakistani girls from Bolton who were raped in front of their father in Libya, or the leftist gays who get murdered in Gaza supporting islamo-fascism, or the well-meaning "performance artists" who hitch-hiked from Italy to "Palestine" in a wedding dress as a publicity stunt, only to be raped to death in Turkey by those lovely muslims who are so oppressed... <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7344381.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7344381.stm</a></p>
<p>Idiocracy.</p> Yes, I've seen those South Af…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-08:3766518:Comment:1234202013-05-08T02:17:54.306ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Yes, I've seen those South Africa adverts too. Its bizarre! But I suppose the white liberal lemmings fed on a Guardianista/TheIndependent diet of Nelson Mandela myths, will go there to "live the dream", and get raped and have their limbs chopped off. </p>
<p>Come to think of it, you're right, what's not to like?</p>
<p>Yes, I've seen those South Africa adverts too. Its bizarre! But I suppose the white liberal lemmings fed on a Guardianista/TheIndependent diet of Nelson Mandela myths, will go there to "live the dream", and get raped and have their limbs chopped off. </p>
<p>Come to think of it, you're right, what's not to like?</p> I've been to a few movies rec…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-07:3766518:Comment:1233232013-05-07T21:05:20.275ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>I've been to a few movies recently. And for the last two months or so, advertisments before the main movie include a well-made mini-movie to encourage tourists to visit South Africa. All smiles, happiness and beautiful countryside and cities. What is not to like?!</p>
<p>I've been to a few movies recently. And for the last two months or so, advertisments before the main movie include a well-made mini-movie to encourage tourists to visit South Africa. All smiles, happiness and beautiful countryside and cities. What is not to like?!</p> Well, its worse even than sex…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-07:3766518:Comment:1231912013-05-07T17:33:53.657ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Well, its worse even than sex with a virgin, its sex with a BABY that's supposed to cure you of Aids, in the South African mindset.</p>
<p>But its a question of getting to democracy by degrees. I think it was only about 200 years ago that criminal gangs would be beheaded and their heads put on spikes at the 4 gateways to London. But people's conceptual timeframes are all wrong; way too short.</p>
<p>Well, its worse even than sex with a virgin, its sex with a BABY that's supposed to cure you of Aids, in the South African mindset.</p>
<p>But its a question of getting to democracy by degrees. I think it was only about 200 years ago that criminal gangs would be beheaded and their heads put on spikes at the 4 gateways to London. But people's conceptual timeframes are all wrong; way too short.</p> As with Islam - I doubt wheth…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-07:3766518:Comment:1233172013-05-07T07:20:28.035ZAntonyhttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Antony
<p>As with Islam - I doubt whether many of these people are capable of, or want, democracy. In this case, it is not Islam that is holding people back, but other forms of supremacism found in African society such as Tribal Chieftanism (really nothing more than a form of egomaniacal fascism, despite its romanticisation by western post-modernists), superstitions such as the incident preceding the recent miner's shootings whereby a witch doctor wound up the mob with a ritual involving the chasing…</p>
<p>As with Islam - I doubt whether many of these people are capable of, or want, democracy. In this case, it is not Islam that is holding people back, but other forms of supremacism found in African society such as Tribal Chieftanism (really nothing more than a form of egomaniacal fascism, despite its romanticisation by western post-modernists), superstitions such as the incident preceding the recent miner's shootings whereby a witch doctor wound up the mob with a ritual involving the chasing of a white rabbit, sexual violence against women and the spread of AIDS through willful ignorance and again indiginous religious beliefs such as the one whereby they believe they can be cured of aids if they have sex with a virgin.</p> It seems that the violence of…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-07:3766518:Comment:1231832013-05-07T01:52:37.270ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<blockquote><p>It seems that the violence of the opposition to apartheid lives on</p>
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<p>Not true, or very badly stated.</p>
<p>What you had was Black hatred, which couldn't vent against Whites while they were in power. Once the Whites were forced to relinquish power by the liberal fantasists, the genocide of the Whites began.</p>
<p>Its all a totally stupid and unnecessary mess, in my opinion. The apartheid government should have set up a staged process to egalitarian…</p>
<blockquote><p>It seems that the violence of the opposition to apartheid lives on</p>
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<p>Not true, or very badly stated.</p>
<p>What you had was Black hatred, which couldn't vent against Whites while they were in power. Once the Whites were forced to relinquish power by the liberal fantasists, the genocide of the Whites began.</p>
<p>Its all a totally stupid and unnecessary mess, in my opinion. The apartheid government should have set up a staged process to egalitarian democracy, with checks and balances, which are tested at the end of every stage, for which success is required for progression to the next stage. </p>
<p>The checks and balances are not just figments in the head of the crafters of Constitutional Law, they are required to become enculturated into the shared mindset of the society. Its so childish to think that that can happen in any timescale less than one generation.</p>
<p>I would guess that a staged progression to a stable secular democracy in South Africa would have taken 50 to 100 years. OK, not ideal, but better than the genocide of whites, rape of women, political corruption AND abuse of the poorer blacks, that you have now.</p> I could only read a part of t…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-05-06:3766518:Comment:1232332013-05-06T21:16:46.116ZKinanahttp://4freedoms.com/profile/Kinana
<p>I could only read a part of these comments and discussion. It confirms what a teacher friend told me. Many of my friend’s co-workers are from South Africa. When my friend asked them why they left South Africa they say because of the violence and crime. Is this merely a transitional phase from apartheid? A legacy from the violence of apartheid? </p>
<p>I doubt it. And why the silence of the Aid agencies and former Anti-Apartheid workers? Good questions Alan. </p>
<p>I remember Winnie…</p>
<p>I could only read a part of these comments and discussion. It confirms what a teacher friend told me. Many of my friend’s co-workers are from South Africa. When my friend asked them why they left South Africa they say because of the violence and crime. Is this merely a transitional phase from apartheid? A legacy from the violence of apartheid? </p>
<p>I doubt it. And why the silence of the Aid agencies and former Anti-Apartheid workers? Good questions Alan. </p>
<p>I remember Winnie Mandela saying (slight paraphrase): ‘with a few more neck-ties the revolution will arrive and apartheid destroyed.’ It seems that the violence of the opposition to apartheid lives on and was always there. [Neck-tie is the name given to a cruel form of execution used by the ANC whereby the victim was encased in rubber tires which were then set alight.]</p> Its not a new problem. This v…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-03-19:3766518:Comment:1211592013-03-19T19:44:51.844Zpaul collingshttp://4freedoms.com/profile/paulcollings
<p>Its not a new problem. This video is 5 years old. And horrific! so if you watch it beware. I remember us having a discussion on 4F about this back in 2009, just can't find it yet. When i do i'll post the link.<iframe height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/06Twyq8s2po?wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" width="420"></iframe>
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<p>Its not a new problem. This video is 5 years old. And horrific! so if you watch it beware. I remember us having a discussion on 4F about this back in 2009, just can't find it yet. When i do i'll post the link.<iframe height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/06Twyq8s2po?wmode=opaque" frameborder="0" width="420"></iframe>
</p> South Africa’s Hell on Earth…tag:4freedoms.com,2013-03-19:3766518:Comment:1212632013-03-19T15:19:32.533ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<h1 class="entry-title" id="aeaoofnhgocdbnbeljkmbjdmhbcokfdb-mousedown">South Africa’s Hell on Earth</h1>
<div class="post-info"><span class="date published time" title="2013-03-19T00:41:49+00:00">March 19, 2013</span> By <span class="author vcard"><span class="fn"><a class="fn n" href="http://frontpagemag.com/author/dgreenfield/" rel="author" title="Daniel Greenfield">Daniel Greenfield</a></span></span> …</div>
<h1 class="entry-title" id="aeaoofnhgocdbnbeljkmbjdmhbcokfdb-mousedown">South Africa’s Hell on Earth</h1>
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<div class="entry-content"><p><a href="http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/south-africas-hell-on-earth/rape_0/" target="_blank"><img src="http://c481901.r1.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/rape_0.jpg?width=213" width="213" class="align-left"/></a>When a 23-year-old woman was raped and tortured to death in Delhi, the case captured the attention of the world. Two months later, a 17-year-old girl was raped and tortured to death near Cape Town in an eerily similar case, but hardly anyone noticed. In both cases, the women were gang raped, mutilated and cut open. But the rape and murder of women has become horrifyingly common in South Africa.</p>
<p><strong>Nelson Mandela is still officially venerated as a saint, his smiling face appearing on countless posters, while the man himself, having solved all the problems of his native country, tours the world with a group of elders, including Kofi Annan and Jimmy Carter, to solve the problems of other countries; but while Mandela tours, his own country has descended into its own kind of hell.</strong></p>
<p>For women, South Africa may be the worst place on earth. South Africa is one of the few countries on earth where women die before men.</p>
<p>South Africa has the most rapes per capita of anywhere in the world. 3,600 rapes happen in South Africa every day. 40% percent of South African women will be raped. In one survey, 1 in 4 men admitted to being rapists. 1 in 10 of those admitted to raping little girls. Children are believed to be the victims of 41% of the rapes in the country.</p>
<p>But the best picture of how nightmarish South Africa has become for women may be that the President of South Africa, Jacob Zuma of the African National Congress, had been on trial for rape. Since the trial, Zuma’s accuser has fled abroad, after being threatened, while Zuma rules South Africa.</p>
<p>Both the 17-year-old girl and Zuma’s accuser were black.</p>
<p>Tellingly, Zuma’s accuser was HIV positive and a victim of child rape. Neither of these biographical notes was unusual in a country where 28% of the schoolgirls in one area were HIV positive and where 1 in 3 girls have been sexually assaulted before their 18<sup>th</sup> birthday. A third of pregnant women have been found to be HIV positive making it a curse that is being passed on to the next generation.</p>
<p>AIDS has saturated South Africa, helped along by its rape culture and the continent’s superstitions about the disease. HIV positive men believe that they can be cured through sexual contact with a virgin. Such superstitions are not the province of rural backwaters. Several post-Apartheid presidents, including Zuma, have entertained unscientific theories about the spread of AIDS making it even more difficult to fight the disease.</p>
<p>5.6 million South Africans have the virus making it the country with the largest number of infected people. While the impact of AIDS among the white population is slight, <a href="http://www.avert.org/south-africa-hiv-aids-statistics.htm">13.6% of the African population</a> is HIV positive reflecting the spread of the post-Apartheid epidemic.</p>
<p>While it is possible to claim that South Africa’s horrifying death toll is not connected to the end of Apartheid, the heavy increase in mortality rates paints a different picture. Maternal mortality has quadrupled since the end of Apartheid and mortality rates in general have undergone a terrifying increase.</p>
<p>Between 1997 and 2008, South Africa’s population only increased by a quarter, but its mortality rate nearly doubled. It might be easy to attribute this increase to AIDS, but AIDS played only a limited role compared to a constellation of more common diseases and even more common violence.</p>
<p>South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world either per capita or in the sheer number of people killed. If the full numbers are assessed based on fatalities, rather than underreported offenses, South Africa might have the highest murder rate in the world. The vast majority of those killed under this state of lawlessness are black.</p>
<p>Numbers like these can’t come as much of a surprise. Under the official statistics, 25 percent of South Africans are unemployed. In the unofficial statistics, these numbers climb into the 40s. Only 41 percent of working age adults actually holds a job. And the statistics are worse for blacks than they are for whites. Half of South Africans and more than half of South African children live below the poverty line. The black personal income level is drifting back to apartheid era numbers.</p>
<p>As in Rhodesia, the problem was not so much the end of Apartheid, as the insistence of the international community in seeing power handed over to the most radical and violent elements of the opposition.</p>
<p>In Rhodesia, the international community rejected Bishop Abel Muzorewa and insisted on handing over power to Mugabe. The horror that followed from putting a vicious terrorist group in charge of the country was inevitable. Similarly handing over power to the African National Congress had entirely predictable results. While Mandela tours the world enjoying the benefits of his sainthood, South Africa burns.</p>
<p>White people have been the most obvious targets in South Africa and Zimbabwe, but the black population has suffered the most from the collapse of law and order and the implementation of a tyrannical state run at the whims of monsters like Mugabe and Zuma, not to mention Malema.</p>
<p>Both Mugabe and the ANC have tried to cover up their disastrous misrule by turning the white population into scapegoats with land seizures and racial hiring practices, but what they have really done is played favorites, handing out plum positions and farms to their cronies while destroying business and agriculture. And the Marikana mine massacre dispelled any illusions that the ANC would be any less brutal toward black workers than the old regime.</p>
<p>Post-Apartheid South Africa is a good deal like Apartheid South Africa with a hierarchy based on African National Congress connections at the top and the same old hierarchy in most other places. Rather than ending Apartheid, the old system has been post-racialized and utterly corrupted under the guise of racial liberation.</p>
<p>For most of South Africa’s black population, the economic facts of life have not improved and the social facts of life have worsened.</p>
<p>Like Mugabe, Mandela did not usher in a new beginning for South African whites and blacks, but the beginning of the end for the future of all races in the country.</p>
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