10 Reasons Why Islam Will Replace Secular Democracy [PCD] - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-28T17:17:09Zhttp://4freedoms.com/forum/topics/why-islam-will-replace-secular-democracy?groupUrl=admin&feed=yes&xn_auth=noA lot of useful info here: "W…tag:4freedoms.com,2015-09-02:3766518:Comment:1701702015-09-02T23:16:20.987ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>A lot of useful info here: "What makes Islam so successful?":</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/11/basic-elements-of-islam.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/11/basic-elements-of-islam.html</a></p>
<p>According to my method of 'Ideological Anthropology', I rank the two ideologies here:…</p>
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<p>A lot of useful info here: "What makes Islam so successful?":</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/11/basic-elements-of-islam.html">http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/11/basic-elements-of-islam.html</a></p>
<p>According to my method of 'Ideological Anthropology', I rank the two ideologies here:</p>
<p><a href="http://4freedoms.com/group/admin/forum/topics/the-10-ideology-metrics" target="_blank" style="font-size: 13px;">http://4freedoms.com/group/admin/forum/topics/the-10-ideology-metrics</a></p> I got this from the British P…tag:4freedoms.com,2012-06-01:3766518:Comment:1029942012-06-01T05:07:23.548ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><span>I got this from the British Patriots Society website. Will have to look up further detail later. It backs up the 10 reasons given above.</span></p>
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<p><span id="">As T.B MacCauley rightly stated:</span></p>
<p><span>''A democracy cannot survive as a permanent form of government. It can last only until its citizens discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the…</span></p>
<p><span>I got this from the British Patriots Society website. Will have to look up further detail later. It backs up the 10 reasons given above.</span></p>
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<p><span id="">As T.B MacCauley rightly stated:</span></p>
<p><span>''A democracy cannot survive as a permanent form of government. It can last only until its citizens discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority (who vote) will vote for those candidates promising the greatest benefits from the public purse, with the result that a democracy will always collapse from loose fiscal policies, always followed by a dictatorship.</span></p>
<p><span>The average age of the world's greatest democratic nations has been 200 years.</span></p>
<p><span>Each has been through the following sequence:</span></p>
<ol>
<li>From bondage to spiritual faith.</li>
<li>From faith to great courage.</li>
<li>From courage to liberty.</li>
<li>From liberty to abundance.</li>
<li>From abundance to complacency.</li>
<li>From complacency to selfishness.</li>
<li>From selfishness to apathy.</li>
<li>From apathy to dependency.</li>
<li>And from dependency back again into bondage."</li>
</ol>
<p><span>We are now on step 9.</span></p> Civilisational collapse has h…tag:4freedoms.com,2012-04-18:3766518:Comment:995002012-04-18T11:28:35.041ZJoehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/38DD
<p>Civilisational collapse has happened before (does any of this sound familiar?):</p>
<blockquote><p>In our own time the whole of Greece has been subject to a low birth rate and a general decrease of the population, owing to which citicies have become deserted and the land has ceased to yield fruit, although there have neither been continuous wars nor epidemics... men had fallen into such a state of pretentiousness, avarice, and indolence that they did not with to marry, or if they married to…</p>
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<p>Civilisational collapse has happened before (does any of this sound familiar?):</p>
<blockquote><p>In our own time the whole of Greece has been subject to a low birth rate and a general decrease of the population, owing to which citicies have become deserted and the land has ceased to yield fruit, although there have neither been continuous wars nor epidemics... men had fallen into such a state of pretentiousness, avarice, and indolence that they did not with to marry, or if they married to rear the children born to them, or at most as a rule but one or two of them, so as to leave these in affluence and bring them up to waste their substance, the evil rapidly and insensibly grew.</p>
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<p>Polybious, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Histories</span>, Book XXXVI (circa 150 BC)</p>
<p>Meanwhile back in 2006,in our favourite example of dumbed-down gutter journalism, Dagbladet, Mullah Krekar openly stated: </p>
<blockquote><p>We're the ones that will change you. Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children... <strong>Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours</strong>".</p>
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<p>Steyn, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">America Alone</span> pp.39-41</p>
<p>And it looks like he is right.</p>
<p>You would think that with all the classics scholars churned out by universities all over europe, that the records of people like Polybius would be known (heck, they can get degrees in classics these days without even reading greek or latin). They probably watch the film Troy with Brad Pitt, and think they understand the Trojan War).</p>
<p>You would think with all the social scientists being churned out by our universities, that they would be able to understand that demography is destiny (mind you they don't even need basic maths to be called "social scientist", so they probably see the simplest table of numbers and skip passed it).</p>
<p>Our dumbed-down, reality-tv/celebrity obsessed lemmings cannot see the inevitability of what is happening. They are all too busy running along with the other lemmings to see the cliff ahead. Meanwhile, on the peaks above, there are masses of hunting birds reproducing.</p>
<p>I realise that the lemmings/cliff image is only a metaphor.</p>
<p></p> Good point Dave and its actua…tag:4freedoms.com,2012-04-18:3766518:Comment:995412012-04-18T08:53:02.806ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>Good point Dave and its actually my main pre-occupation now, in terms of our Freedom Fighter (FF) movements.</p>
<p>I've always been interested in logic and reason, and I find it amazing that our FF side often loses in debates and argument, unless we are being defended by someone like Douglas Murray - and there aren't many of them.</p>
<p>So I've spent a lot of time trying to distil out and simplify our case so that it can be used by other people. The Total Elevator Pitch, on every page of…</p>
<p>Good point Dave and its actually my main pre-occupation now, in terms of our Freedom Fighter (FF) movements.</p>
<p>I've always been interested in logic and reason, and I find it amazing that our FF side often loses in debates and argument, unless we are being defended by someone like Douglas Murray - and there aren't many of them.</p>
<p>So I've spent a lot of time trying to distil out and simplify our case so that it can be used by other people. The Total Elevator Pitch, on every page of this website, it the result. Well, its in compressed form there, but the expanded forms are more readable. That Elevator Pitch avoids getting bogged down in difficult theological arguments or learning lots of Islamic scripture. It just points out the defects in how we've structured our foundational principles and our law, and that we have to re-assert the separation of Church and State, if we are going to give any kind of exemptions or special treatment to the 'Church', which in this case is Islam.</p>
<p>Human argument is ferociously complex and complicated, even more so than computer systems, and that's saying something, so even the Elevator Pitch is heavy going.</p>
<p>My dream would be to train small groups of people all round the world, to be able to perform effectively in this dialogue arena, but I'm afraid that dream is a long way off yet. It is difficult to find the right people, and the logistics problems are great as well, but I will keep trying to develop such an idea. I also plan on writing a book later this year which should hopefully clarify things. That's the best I can do at the moment I'm afraid!</p>