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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Oops I seem to mislaid the last part to this some in my HD, but believe me it was ev…"

shiva replied Jul 19, 2013 to A HARD LOOK AT RACISM (Warning Graphic)

4 Jul 19, 2013
Reply by Alan Lake

"I did not post all that was in my original post So here it is Ho Ho "

shiva replied Jun 30, 2013 to A HARD LOOK AT RACISM (Warning Graphic)

4 Jul 19, 2013
Reply by Alan Lake

"To quote you Paul But i'll bet their personel security has become a top worry. I thi…"

shiva replied Jul 19, 2012 to The success of the suicide bomber.

2 Jul 19, 2012
Reply by paul collings

"Pied-Noir (French pronunciation: [pjenwaʁ], Black-Foot), plural Pieds-Noirs, is a te…"

shiva replied Jul 12, 2012 to Why is it so hard for France to say 'Sorry' to Algeria by Jonathan Laurence of the Brookings Institute

4 Jul 12, 2012
Reply by shiva

"France should in no way apologize, if they do it will be one more step to dhimmifica…"

shiva replied Jul 12, 2012 to Why is it so hard for France to say 'Sorry' to Algeria by Jonathan Laurence of the Brookings Institute

4 Jul 12, 2012
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shiva replied May 24, 2012 to Tunisia and the Maghreb: 'Arab Spring' or 'Fascist Summer' ?

18 Dec 2, 2015
Reply by paul collings

"I missed this film when I was in Bangkok BANGKOK | Wed Jun 27, 2007 (Reuters) - T…"

shiva replied May 24, 2012 to Tunisia and the Maghreb: 'Arab Spring' or 'Fascist Summer' ?

18 Dec 2, 2015
Reply by paul collings

"Correction It was Hugh Fitzgeraldwho asked the above question. I would also like to…"

shiva replied May 24, 2012 to Biafra

9 May 24, 2012
Reply by shiva

"When you really start looking at the the history of jihad, you will find that the we…"

shiva replied Mar 9, 2010 to Biafra

9 May 24, 2012
Reply by shiva

"YES this really is Muslim against Christian, it was Jihad, and is ongoing to day"

shiva replied Feb 17, 2010 to Biafra

9 May 24, 2012
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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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