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Kuffarphobia in Italy


Kuffarphobia in Italy

Per contribuire a unire le Persone italiane ed italofone nella loro Lotta per le Libertà (4 Freedoms)

[Nell'Immagine: Dante (Alighieri) e Beatrice, sua Musa (Dante Alighieri and Beatrice, his Muse).]

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Commento da Philip Smeeton su 5 Marzo 2018 a 11:21

Just maybe Italy will leave the EU and solve their migrant problem if Salvini and Brunetta can form a government.

Commento da Antony su 3 Marzo 2018 a 7:29
Commento da Antony su 25 Febbraio 2018 a 10:12
Commento da Alan Lake su 21 Febbraio 2018 a 22:11


A student attacked by a gang of four men has accused police of blaming her because she had blonde hair and sexy clothing. 

The incident happened when the young woman, identified only by her first name Sabina, who lives in the capital Vienna had been waiting for a train on the S6 line at the city’s main Westbahnhof station. 

The 20-year-old, who was hospitalised after the attack by four men in which she was beaten and robbed, told Heute newspaper: “I felt so helpless.” 

“I had been standing on the platform waiting for the train when a man came up to me and spoke to me in a foreign language. He then started putting his hands through my hair and made it clear that in his cultural background there were hardly any blonde women. I told him to go away, and for a short while he really did go away.” 

“But it was only to get his pals and a bit later he came back with three others. They stole my handbag and my cards.” And if that was not enough, she said that the four had then attacked her, bashing her to the ground in a rage before running off. 

She said that from what they had said she understood they were from Afghanistan and that as she lay on the floor in agony nobody on the platform had helped. After being treated at hospital for bruising to her head, shoulder and elbow as well as her spine and hips, she went to police. 

And her distress had turned to anger when police had told her that she should change her hair colour and should not have been travelling alone after 8pm on public transport. 

She said: “At first I was scared, but now I’m more angry than anything. After the attack they told me that women shouldn’t be alone on the streets after 8pm. And they also gave me other advice, telling me I should dye my hair dark and also not dress in such a provocative way. Indirectly that means I was partly to blame for what happened to me. That is a massive insult.” 

The girl who is studying acting said the police advice is going in the completely wrong direction. She said she will now avoid huge crowds and for example this year will not be attending the popular music concert Danube Island Festival. 

She said: “The police told me that attacks are now a daily routine. And it’s going to get worse.” Asked what she would say if she saw the men that attacked again, she replied: “Nothing, I would simply spray pepper-spray in their faces.”

The story in Heute has some more details.

For the drama student, this is all going in the wrong direction: “I don’t see why I should withdraw into myself. I am a foreigner myself. I was born in Dubai and my father is an Iraqi. But I converted to Christianity, learned German and adapted. Everyone who comes here should do that.”

Commento da Antony su 21 Febbraio 2018 a 7:01
Commento da Kinana su 8 Febbraio 2018 a 13:47

Will this latest murder affect the elections on 4 March?

indeed a storm is brewing.

"Italy shows similar symptoms. Youth unemployment stands at 35.1 percent, third-highest in the Eurozone. Secessionist parties, always strong in the industrial north, are now eyeing government ministries. Traditional attempts at reform have foundered.  If a new crisis of the Eurozone is soon upon us, Italy could be its epicenter."

Commento da Philip Smeeton su 8 Febbraio 2018 a 11:57

No picture of the victim in Macerata in the mainstream media. Pamela Mastropietro.

Commento da Philip Smeeton su 8 Febbraio 2018 a 11:46

Duterte in the Philippines has the right idea.

Commento da Alan Lake su 7 Febbraio 2018 a 13:53

Yes, I read a similar comment about the genocide of the tall beautiful Tutsi by the Hutu in Rwanda.

Commento da Antony su 7 Febbraio 2018 a 6:52

Re the girl murdered below, and the reaction to it, these people always want to destroy beauty, if not by murder then by defiling women by sex or drug abuse. I think that most Europeans secretly sympathise with the patriot who went on the shooting rampage, but are afraid to say so due to the incitement and anti "terrorist" laws.


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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