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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Discusiones de John Sobieski (235)

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"Spain is being destroyed by regionalism and separatism. The Catalan love affair with…"

John Sobieski respondió 10 Oct 2012 a Forced Marriages, another stigma of Catalan Islamizaicon

2 10 Oct 2012
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"Roger that! I will put something in the Spanish Room then. Didn't want to bore peopl…"

John Sobieski respondió 31 Mar 2011 a The Left in Spain celebrate the Invasion, enslavement, massacre by the Arabs in 711

11 31 Mar 2011
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"Hi Kinana - my Spanish is not the best - I still have a long way to go and I have be…"

John Sobieski respondió 31 Mar 2011 a The Left in Spain celebrate the Invasion, enslavement, massacre by the Arabs in 711

11 31 Mar 2011
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"Hi Kinana - I hate to piss in your tea and my Spanish is not the best but I take tha…"

John Sobieski respondió 30 Mar 2011 a The Left in Spain celebrate the Invasion, enslavement, massacre by the Arabs in 711

11 31 Mar 2011
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"Don't tell Alan you said that! :-)"

John Sobieski respondió 25 Mar 2011 a Boatload of young Sahrawi migrants towed into port on Lanzarote

6 25 Mar 2011
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"Good Rant! :-) bet you were spitting blood when you wrote it? :-)"

John Sobieski respondió 24 Mar 2011 a Boatload of young Sahrawi migrants towed into port on Lanzarote

6 25 Mar 2011
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"No  they only have to be residents of spain - they are still nationals of other coun…"

John Sobieski respondió 8 Mar 2011 a ZAPATERRO TROUSERS A 1.9 BILLION BUNG

7 8 Mar 2011
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"Will speak to Yollanda and get the figure and my guessing it to the left - as they l…"

John Sobieski respondió 1 Mar 2011 a ZAPATERRO TROUSERS A 1.9 BILLION BUNG

7 8 Mar 2011
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"We are just getting ready for an election here and the Partido Popular (Conservative…"

John Sobieski respondió 1 Mar 2011 a ZAPATERRO TROUSERS A 1.9 BILLION BUNG

7 8 Mar 2011
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"All this 600 years before Vlad 3 the Impaler, God rest his soul - what on earth did…"

John Sobieski respondió 22 Feb 2011 a The myth of an Islamic Andalusian paradise

8 23 Feb 2011
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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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