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They were adrift at sea for three days before they were rescued

One of the boat’s passengers after reaching po


An immigrant boat with 47 young male passengers on board, including two who claim to be underage, was towed into port in Arrecife, Lanzarote, on Wednesday after the boat was spotted some 50 miles to the east of island after three days adrift.


The migrants said they were Sahrawi, and some were seen holding up Western Sahara flags and shouting out ‘Viva el Sahara!’ and ‘Viva el Polisario!’ as they came into port.


The Coastguard were mobilised for their rescue after a fishing boat reported hearing over the radio a call from a merchant ship that it had spotted the migrants’ boat.


A spokesman for the local Sahrawi community on Lanzarote told the EFE news agency that they had been alerted from Laayoune that young members of the Sahrawi movement could be travelling on the boat. Bachir Mansur said the boat’s arrival in the Canaries could be a tactic by the Moroccan government to remove rebellious Sahrawis from their territory by providing them with boats to leave Western Sahara.


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John: so Spain must accept the refuse from Africa? We are paying a high price for our Christian Conscience. We are almost bankrupt - can we afford anymore demands on the welfare system?

A free trip back to Morocco would have been the kindest thing or perhaps we could have sent them to Libya to fight against Gadaffi?

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I don't see how Morocco would manage to do something similar, since this Sahrawis from the Polisario Front seem to be People very much committed in "freeing Western Sahara",


why should they wish to flee to Europe? Maybe simply to strenghten their international (rebellious or terroristic) Ties with other similar Groups,


and I therefore suppose that this won't benefit Morocco at all.


Then, I really do not understand what's the Clue for Morocco, in helping them going to Spain?

Europe is slowley sinking. Soon the only question left will be where do i que for the soup kitchin. Portugal is going under and good old labour tied us into an agreement to help bail her out, same with spain, and Irland,s  looking on the brink and may need refinancing. It seems to me its gotten out of control very quickly. Labour new what they were doing before they left office, this saturday the unions are out demanding more. MORE of what!! more of nothing = nothing. And thats what we,ll all have soon.

How can anyone from these country,s be considered in danger, people go on holiday to the north African country,s. Maybe the FCO would like to send out a warning for all our citizens to return home if it,s so dangerous that people have to excape by boat into the Atlantic Ocean. I think i might go to Dover and give leaflets to all the illigals and asylum seekers with the way to knightsbridge on them. Tell them what a great place to live it is. And the Cotswolds, it,s nice there.

Good Rant! :-) bet you were spitting blood when you wrote it? :-)
Yep. Another trip to anger management. We should push em straight back into the  Atlantic. They look like good sailors.!
Don't tell Alan you said that! :-)

I,m sure Alan will understand. My Brother inlaw (ex) is Moroccan, and he has never had to get in a boat and float across the Atlantic to leave his country. Nor has any of his family, or his friends.

These people didn,t aim for Portugal, or the spainish main land, and they certainly didn,t head south. They,re fit able bodied men who are looking to join the Gravy train, and they have highlighted another route into Europe. Soon every Island and strip of beach that points to Europe will be invaded. And we don,t have the resources to stop it. 47? 470? 47,000. Where does it end?.  Do we in Europe build detention centres to put them in so we can keep an eye on them and send them home? I think we no the answer to all those questions.

 We are running out of housing stock in England. Maybe we can get people who have lived in their council houses who are under occupied to move out and put the migrants in them. Then we could stop paying any benefits to people and force them out of their homes as soon as they hit hard times, and stick migrants in them, after converting the propertys into Flats and bedsits first, and turning the areas into depressed immigrant sh*tholes!!!! Sorry, i was too slow with my ideas. We,re already doing that !! All the troubles  migrants  tell us they are running from, they are bringing with them.

 Still a FRIEND in need and all that.     

John Sobieski said:

Don't tell Alan you said that! :-)


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