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Further to the report I submitted recently about forced marriages in Catalan, I asked Enric Ravello of Party PxC in Catalonia if he would please make comment on the situation there.  Below please find his response.  I would like to thank him for taking the time to give us this report.

“El Periodico” (The Newspaper), a media which few "suspect" of being anti-immigrant, because it is the socialist wing, published on 24 March 2011 that in the previous year (2010) The Catalan police, Mossos, knew of 15 cases forced marriages with minors, but calculated that 300 cases occurred actually. The cases detected in 2011 and in 2012 (at the moment) confirm that this scourge continues to grow in Catalonia.

Forced marriages, clitoris ablations, violence and abuse against women, proliferation of mosques, the presence of women wearing burkas. These are the consequences of the process of Islamization which plagues Catalonia. A phenomenon as serious as it is happening dizzily fast.

You need to remember that as recently as 1996, the rate of immigrants in Catalonia and in Spain was 0.4%, most of them British and German retirees and perfectly integrated in full harmony with the Spanish daily life, to which added some Argentine Spanish or Italian origin. It should be noted that 1996 was the year the liberal right Popular Party (PP) came to power.  Spain's doors were opened to mass immigration so that cheap labor -needed to fuel the housing boom - and which has ended with the current crisis passed on to our country.

Since then the tide of migration has been steadily growing, always with the complicity of the conservatives and socialists government, up to 13% today.

However, we must point out a peculiarity in the Spanish migration process which makes a specific case at the European level. Spain has received two kinds of immigration: the South American Indians (Bolivia, Ecuador, etc.) who live in Madrid and central Spain, and Islamic immigrants (Pakistan and Morocco preferably) who have migrated to Catalonia and in general throughout the Levantine coast (east coast).

Because of this, Catalonia is the area where the heaviest impact is being felt due to the Islamization process, in some cases, this is as severe as and similar to southern France. 

Today Catalonia is the region of Spain that has largest number of mosques, even more than Spanish cities Ceuta and Melilla in the north of Africa, where it has had to legislate to prohibit the public use of the burka.  Where there have been cases like the Terressa Salafist Imam, who has been indicted for encouraging "prayers" to mistreat women.  This is where they want to build a huge mosque which will be benchmarked for all Muslims on this side of the Mediterranean. 

It is the same reason that explains why in Catalonia we find these cases of forced marriages with minors, another feature of backwardness and barbarism typical of the vast Muslim community, even though it is a modern European land and as Christian as Catalonia.

Enric Ravello

Secretary of national and foreign relationships of PxC-PxL party.

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Respuestas a esta discusión

 I was wondering if it helped the muslim immigrants that Catalonia has been trying to become independant for so long.

The separatist movement would have made it an ideal place for muslims to settle, supporting the locals, incouraging separatist views, while slowly populating the area.

Untill someone insist's muslims live by the same rules and standards we live by when they move to the west, then why should they stop their 'cultural practice's'?

we're getting to the point where one of our mulit-cultural European enclaves is going to finally fall to islamic rule, or at least dominance. Why not Catalonia.  It would be a shame, theres some beautiful churches in the region that will be turned into Mosques. Or destroyed. But as the people of Europe would rather live as slaves, than fight for their freedoms its hard to no what to do.

I would suggest vote for someone whos got the balls to stand up to the  Islamic tsunami. But thats not easy. look at Geert Wilders.

The only other thing that may work is for indiginous peoples to have half a dozen kids, and call them all jesus.  Sounds stupid, but no worse than the solutions offered by the politicians, the media, or the intelectuals. So good luck Catalonia, or sould i say Andalusia ll.


Spain is being destroyed by regionalism and separatism. The Catalan love affair with the left has left it open to colonization. 722 all over again! Do we never learn?


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