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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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Bring it on Satan, bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot see democracy or the parties of the left defending Europe from this threat.

For us in Spain - the only hope seems to be a shift to the right - please vote for the PP if you can.

It is a shame that in many ways I agree with the Islamists - we do need to move away from such a secular society and we do need to emphasize Duty to our Country before indulging in regional or personal privileges. It is sad that El Caudillo has been proved right, certainly in the case of Spain. As a lifelong liberal who has finally woken up to reality I can only now describe myself as a NeoCon.

It seems to me that we must ditch the European Court of Human Rights and to proscribe Islam as a subversive ideology - it has not served its people well - I can't see our present governments acknowledging the nature of the danger to the west let alone defending us against it. 

Does anyone know if we have a Spanish "Geert Wilders"??

And, in a way I agree with "Irishcomrad" but if they "bring it on" at the moment we will end up in Eurabia just like the poor Lebanese Christians - if it is to come to War and it does seem like they are determined that it will, then we must organize and lobby just as the Muslims do to bully the spineless politicians that we have into protecting our culture from a thousand years of darkness.

John Sobieski.


Hope for Peace but prepare for War!!



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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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