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U.S. Military Equipment gifted to the Taliban
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Sep 7, 2021. 4 Replies 0 Likes
Strategika: What will Afghanistan look like following US withdrawal in 2014?
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 30, 2014. 1 Reply 0 Likes
Syria? What about the recent attacks on US troops in Afghanistan?
Started by Paul Austin Murphy. Last reply by paul collings Sep 6, 2013. 4 Replies 0 Likes
Afghanistan 2012 or 712
Started by Dave. Last reply by Dave Jul 10, 2012. 3 Replies 0 Likes
94 Cases of Self-Immolation (mostly women) in 1 Year
Started by Joe. Last reply by paul collings Jun 4, 2012. 3 Replies 0 Likes
Skateistan: a voice of reason
Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Apr 30, 2012. 2 Replies 0 Likes
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Comment by Philip Smeeton on November 28, 2023 at 15:31
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We should stay completely out of Muslim affairs and let them slaughter each other and not us.
And do every Muslim living in our countries a favour and send them back to Muslim countries so that they can be their true selves.
Then bomb to oblivion any Muslim country that threatens us and our way of life- I was going to say our freedom but there's not much of that about these days.
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Comment by Alan Lake on November 28, 2023 at 1:47
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https://rumble.com/v3sezfy-afghanistan-what-really-happened-tucker-...
Afghanistan: What Really Happened | Tucker Carlson Today (Full episode)
In this episode: Lara Logan is an award-winning journalist who spent years reporting on the War in Afghanistan. She joins Tucker to discuss the Biden administration's disastrous withdrawal from the country and reveal the truth about America’s 20-year war.
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Who wants to be a US ally? I don't.
Wants to work with US troops? I don't
Who wants to get dumped at Kabul airport? I don't
And I don't 'cos all I want is a normal life.
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Wilfully blind.
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The blind eye does not connect the evil that Muslims do to the commandments of the evil creed of Islam that Muslims blindly follow.
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Comment by Kinana on June 5, 2022 at 9:04
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In Facebook comments on the MSF page they are complaining about the horrible treatment of women. But not once is 'Islam' mentioned. It's all men this and men that. No one mentions the worldview of those men. It must be just a male thing!
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Four Guantanamo inmates swapped for ‘deserter’ Bowe Bergdahl named as ministers in Taliban government — RT USA News
https://www.rt.com/news/534241-afghanistan-taliban-government-us-pr...
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How the USSR Lost the Afghan War - Panjshir Valley Battles
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Mission Overview
Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
The 4 Freedoms
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
- Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"
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