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Kuffarphobia in Africa


Kuffarphobia in Africa

To defend the 4 Freedoms in Africa
(apart from Nigeria, Egypt and Sudan which have their own rooms)

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Started by shiva. Last reply by paul collings Aug 9, 2016. 4 Replies

Church Street Bombing

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Soft Jihad in Kenya: Push for Polygamy Successful

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Apr 3, 2015. 3 Replies

A HARD LOOK AT RACISM (Warning Graphic)

Started by shiva. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 19, 2013. 4 Replies

...and the beat goes on!

Started by Dave. Last reply by Dave Nov 12, 2012. 14 Replies

Islam Solution to Aids

Started by shiva. Last reply by Dave Jul 30, 2012. 1 Reply

The success of the suicide bomber.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by paul collings Jul 19, 2012. 2 Replies

Mali: Students flee Sharia in northern schools

Started by shiva. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 24, 2012. 1 Reply


Started by shiva. Last reply by shiva May 24, 2012. 9 Replies

No Peace for south sudan.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by Joe Apr 30, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by Alan Lake on March 13, 2013 at 0:32

Its difficult to formulate though, if you are not dealing with a clearly defined political project, as is Islam.  Similarly, I can totally relate to the genocide of whites in South Africa and Zimbabwe, because that too is being done as an overt and covert political project. 

But in the UK, in the case of Yardie gangs and general black-on-white crime, apart from the Black Panthers and so on, I don't know of any defined political project with that aim, so - forgive me if I'm being slow - but I can't see why that can't be dealt with by normal policing and by normal law.

Of course its not being dealt with by the police at the moment, they have their Stephen Lawrence favourites, obviously.  But that is a failure of policing and the courts, not a failure of the legislature.  All the structures are in place to give equal protection in law - its just that whites don't get it.

I want to distinguish that Policing failure,  from where there is a political failure.  The police don't like, and are useless at, dealing with political problems.  So, in the face of the rise of the Islamic power groups, there is little they can do.  That is something the government has to handle, by political means - legislation and so on.

Does that make sense?

Comment by Joe on March 12, 2013 at 10:41

I agree with you Antony.  My family are connected by marriage to a Jamaican family.  Through this Jamaican connection we are one step away from the most notorious gangsters/criminals in the area.  Half of that Jamaican side of the family are worried when certain members of their own family are released from prison.  Mind you, when it kicks off, I daresay my family at least will be able to call on some seriously violent criminals for protection.

Comment by Antony on March 12, 2013 at 8:13

Whilst Islamic Supremacism is the focal point of 4F, merely because black supremacism/racism/tribalism/cheiftanism etc has no apparently organised formal structure in the UK, does not mean to say it is not a problem and does not exist. Given the London riots and persistant problems with yardies & grooming,pimping and rape gangs etc and constant demands for special treatment and indulgences and cultural imperialism, it is obviously a problem, and any indiginous working class Briton living in these areas could tell the obfuscating Guardianistas this.

Comment by Alan Lake on March 12, 2013 at 1:15

I feel for those South Africans, they've been shafted then abandoned by the world.

In a way, what we are concerned with here on 4F is not just strictly the threat from Islamism, perhaps we are more concerned with picking up human rights 'gaps' which have been dropped by all the other 'humanitarian' organisations, because they don't conform to the current politically correct narrative.

So any criticism of Islam is verboten now, since they are the chosen ones.  And any support for oppressed white people is similarly verboten, because they, apparently, have to pay for crimes committed by their great great grandfathers (although nobody else has to do that).

There is a sickening list of fraudulent players in this space, from Amnesty International to the UN Human Rights Council.  It goes back to that old phrase: "who watches the watchmen?".

Comment by Antony on March 11, 2013 at 11:37
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Comment by Antony on November 25, 2012 at 17:18

Britain gives £19million aid to South Africa - its President spends £17.5 million on palace ;

Comment by Kinana on November 11, 2012 at 23:29

Good one Alan.  Also 'fat-cat right' is a new term to be applied to those on the Left who are not quite left enough for the pure Left.  sort of like Left in name only -- or LINOs.  

Comment by Alan Lake on November 11, 2012 at 22:47

The bigots at the Economist have excelled themselves there, as their leftist brains spin in their own contradictions.

After spending the whole article teaching us that the ANC have total control of the country and nobody else has any hope of getting a look in, the Economist says:

The best hope for the country in years to come is a real split in the ANC between the populist left and the fat-cat right to offer a genuine choice for voters.

But hang on: the ANC leadership are black aren't they?  And they are allegedly "for the people", socialist?  But the Leftists have to call them Right Wing because, that's their term for anybody they disagree with.

So, next time someone calls you Right Wing, ask them:
"Are you saying I'm a black socialist?"


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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