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Kuffarphobia in Africa


Kuffarphobia in Africa

To defend the 4 Freedoms in Africa
(apart from Nigeria, Egypt and Sudan which have their own rooms)

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Started by shiva. Last reply by paul collings Aug 9, 2016. 4 Replies

Church Street Bombing

Started by shiva Apr 23, 2015. 0 Replies

Soft Jihad in Kenya: Push for Polygamy Successful

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Apr 3, 2015. 3 Replies

A HARD LOOK AT RACISM (Warning Graphic)

Started by shiva. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 19, 2013. 4 Replies

...and the beat goes on!

Started by Dave. Last reply by Dave Nov 12, 2012. 14 Replies

Islam Solution to Aids

Started by shiva. Last reply by Dave Jul 30, 2012. 1 Reply

The success of the suicide bomber.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by paul collings Jul 19, 2012. 2 Replies

Mali: Students flee Sharia in northern schools

Started by shiva. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 24, 2012. 1 Reply


Started by shiva. Last reply by shiva May 24, 2012. 9 Replies

No Peace for south sudan.

Started by paul collings. Last reply by Joe Apr 30, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 8, 2018 at 10:58

Now there's a good idea Antony. Transportation of our immigrant criminals to South Africa in exchange for white refugees.

I would cut all foreign aid to any country.

Comment by Antony on March 8, 2018 at 10:37

Phil - if they steal the land from the white farmers, Britain,Europe,USA and Australia should give them refuge. We should cut off all economic,food and medical aid to South Africa and let them win the Darwin award. The only thing they should get from us is the west's deported yardies etc

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 8, 2018 at 10:19

A new law in South Africa will allow the seizure of white farms without any compensation.

Just wait we will be sending foodaid to South Africa soon.

Comment by Antony on March 8, 2018 at 6:20
Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 6, 2018 at 16:10

Right Alan it is mistaken morality that is our downfall. People have only the rights that they are given or are able to defend. Which makes them a fiction, or rather a choice. Refugees have the right to return to their homelands not a right to become citizens of the host country. It is not a human right to gain citizenship for just living in a country or having been born there of foreign parents, it is a right we should never have given. As Victor Davis Hanson says Rome was doing fine until it gave full Roman citizenship to everyone in the Empire, from then on it was all downhill. Stuff human rights. We that own the land have first right. 

Comment by Alan Lake on March 5, 2018 at 13:47

I have to say that African countries are not all the same, just as the US states aren't all the same.  California is full of loony lefties, and Wyoming is more practical and conservative.  I wouldn't mind living in Kenya, but not Nigeria. Haven't been to any of the others.

But for the lousy states, I think the result will be as you describe, but I would revise the process.  China will continue to embed itself in the countries with resources it needs.  China doesn't mind if a country cuts off its own nose to spite its face, by getting rid of all the white farmers, etc.  Anything that reduces Western power makes China happy.  But the reversion from democracy to authoritarianism will not be done by China.  China will simply not object, while various black dictators take over the countries they can and pillage the resources for themselves.  As long as China still gets its lithium and gold, why should it worry?

That is the key difference.  The West constantly sticks its nose in and raises moral objections to co-operating with bad regimes.  China just says its none of its business and refuses to interfere in 'internal affairs'.  It doesn't need to do any more than that!  So it doesn't even need to worry about being branded as a 'colonialist overlord' like the US in Iraq or Afghanistan.  Its our own conceited sense of moral superiority and altruism which has allowed China to gain power in what were previously well run coumtries,  where we now take a 'hands off' approach.

Comment by Antony on March 5, 2018 at 13:33

Phil - I don't think it will be long before Africa is put under colonial administration again - but it will be China's - there are already 3 million Chinese in Namibia, they're just watching and waiting whilst the black racists get rid of the white farmers, then when they are reduced to starvation, they will come in with superior technology and organisation, and if the blacks revolt against it, the Chinese will not handle them with the kid gloves the whites did.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 5, 2018 at 12:34

African should be put under administration.

Comment by Alan Lake on March 5, 2018 at 11:23

Zimbabwe calls on departed farmers to return home by Correspondents Report #nowplaying

Comment by Alan Lake on March 5, 2018 at 9:04

That magazin is a good find, Antony. I'm going to check out their podcasts.


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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