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Sometime we hope to have a Blacklist, Graylist and Whitelist of miscreant, doubtful and balanced journalists / media people.  In the meantime, this section will just collect a few pointers to useful information.

For Whitelist

http://www.junipersec.com/

For Blacklist

http://tundratabloids.com/2011/07/toby-archer-and-his-swamp-mind.html

http://www.strath.ac.uk/humanities/courses/sociology/staff/millerda...

Interestingly, Spinwatch above targets the left, if they aren't anti-Jewish: 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2010/jul/13/...

Loonwatch is a risky site, so I'm not putting a link.  However it has its detractors on the left:  http://chroniclinghate.wordpress.com/2010/08/01/loonwatch-hypocrite...

And here's some research:  http://209.157.64.200/focus/chat/2626879/posts

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Since you have been kind enough to suggest junipersec.com for the whitelist, you might want to have a look at http://junipersec.wordpress.com as well.

I'll get this stuff into the appropriate rooms when I know my way around a little more.

Thanks Stale.  Obviously there should be hundreds of sites on the Whitelist, but it was your site that led me to some vital info, so I wanted to make sure I never forgot it by putting it there in the Whitelist, even if it does look a bit lonely on its own :-)

I hope the site can be useful to you, and we're grateful for any contributions you make.  Lastly, welcome to 4F!

Is Tundra Tabloids itself blacklisted, or is it the man referred to in that particular TT article?

I just dumped some stuff to process later so its not clear.

Its loonwatch.com that needs to be blacklisted, and it seems that Mr. Atchuthan Sriskandarajah is the closet supporter of loonwatch.com.

I'm also saying that, just as the left like to gather our personal details and put them in public, we should be gathering their personal details and doing the same.  So I kicked the process off with Toby Archer and Prof. David Miller.

Sorry for the confusion, but there's only so many minutes in each day ...

Thanks.  I certainly see some very interesting and useful possibilities here.  Junipersec on wordpress is basically an extension of Junipersec's "cyber" page.  Both are drawing on the database structures and surveillance routines that have been set down over the last 20 years; what is here is roughly 2 terabytes of raw data + sql bases.  We actually do as torough a job as a few agencies do.  Of course, it's not liked - if you defy the politically correct you literally place your life on the line.
Alan Lake said:

Thanks Stale.  Obviously there should be hundreds of sites on the Whitelist, but it was your site that led me to some vital info, so I wanted to make sure I never forgot it by putting it there in the Whitelist, even if it does look a bit lonely on its own :-)

I hope the site can be useful to you, and we're grateful for any contributions you make.  Lastly, welcome to 4F!

Ståle, this might make me look pretty naive, but I found this rather shocking.  

http://www.junipersec.com/cyber.htm#Norwegian problems

Am I right in understanding that a major corporation in Norway was handing out anti-semitic tracts by Quisling to employees? 

Yes.  And as you can see if you check out the "Whistling past the graveyard" thing on junipersec.wordpress.com, the corporation's actions when the antisemite contingent discovered my collaboration with an American intelligence agent who is Jewish was pretty bizarre.  We're blowing the whistle now because A: we're basically under berufswerbot and don't know how long we can keep plugging along, and B: The blackhats are inside the wire, so widespread that it's a national security risk in every affected country.

We alerted Norman - which was at the time a conduit to Norwegian intelligence (or was supposed to be) about 9/11 a few days before the bang, indirectly.  For details, look here: http://www.junipersec.com/oddies.htm

Now, the male recruiter seems to have been out of sight after that point, but turned up at Obama's Cairo speech.  He may have been one of the Muslim Brotherhood invites.

Joe said:

Ståle, this might make me look pretty naive, but I found this rather shocking.  

http://www.junipersec.com/cyber.htm#Norwegian problems

Am I right in understanding that a major corporation in Norway was handing out anti-semitic tracts by Quisling to employees?

I'm sure there are a myriad of important connections to be made (either by recognising the names or faces of those involved).  I think we could do with a database connecting names & faces.  Something along the lines of what your doing with junipersec.

Ståle Fagerland said:

Now, the male recruiter seems to have been out of sight after that point, but turned up at Obama's Cairo speech.  He may have been one of the Muslim Brotherhood invites.

yes, there's an amazing treasure trove of info on junipersec.com

it makes you wonder what on earth the UK security services are doing to protect us.

The UK security services are outstanding .... compared to the Norwegian security services.  Following the details over at Gates of Vienna, it seems that the Norwegian security services came into contact with Breivik on numerous occasions but never had any idea that he was dangerous.  They even raided his property after discovering that he'd been buying huge amounts of material that could be turned into explosives.  But this (apparently insane) individual was able to convince the highly-trained Norwegian experts that he was naught but a humble farmer.  The whole Breivik incident made the Norwegian security services look like the Keystone Kops (and subsequent stupidities by them have reinforced this image).

For all we know our security services do have something like junipersec, they might just not advertise it.  Certainly there are people around the world saying that the UK is showing the way in infiltrating and uncovering plots before they happen (though the underwear bomber seemed to be off their radar).

I think for the purposes of our own analysis and comprehension as citizens, we need to be capturing the names and faces as well as organisations in order to make the connections that Ståle makes about the guy who turned up in Cairo behind Obama.

Alan Lake said:

yes, there's an amazing treasure trove of info on junipersec.com.
it makes you wonder what on earth the UK security services are doing to protect us.

Really?  Did you read this critique I wrote in October?

http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/uk/forum/topics/what-is-mi5-doing

I refer my learned friend to the remark I made earlier.

"The UK security services are outstanding .... compared to the Norwegian security services."

Whether or not they have a cross-linked database like junipersec is a moot point.  

Here's just one example of the Keystone Kops looking after Norway: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/01/controversy-over-pst.html

Gates of Vienna has further information of the Norwegian security services stupidity over the Breivik affair (such as the policeman who waved to Breivik when he parked his car bomb).  During the Uttoya massacre, when armed police already knew there was a massacre going on, there is video footage of them driving to a jetty, then deciding the boat was not adequate, and spending another 20 minutes finding another boat.

The true hereos of the Uttoya Massacre were a couple of lesbians on holiday, who took their own boat out and rescued people from the water (and the lesbians were under gunfire whilst they did this).

I think the Norwegian power elite do not want Breivik to go to trial not just to stop him speaking, but perhaps equally importantly, to stop the stupidity (and possible cowardice) of their security services from being exposed.

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