Halal Food Chains in UK

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Permalink Reply by Alan Lake on February 6, 2011 at 10:01

I inserted the webpage, in case they remove it :-)

Permalink Reply by Pat McCrann on February 6, 2011 at 12:48

Thanks Alan.

Permalink Reply by paul collings on February 21, 2012 at 13:36

Meat in all its states - Special correspondent - reports in video - France2: http://bit.ly/ABXyF1 

Halal in France. The problem gets bigger. Its time people stopped eating meat from supermarkets,fast food outlets that don't label their meat products.

Permalink Reply by AJ Liberphile on January 30, 2015 at 18:33

Best avoidance method is to simply avoid meat and become vegetarian or pescatarian. Buying local food from local shops (OK, not Royston Vasey) is another excellent (and truly green) tactic.

Permalink Reply by Kinana on January 30, 2015 at 22:19

AJ that is one option but for many that would be a change too far!  Also, Halal certification is much larger than just meat products.  Labeling, imo, would be the first most practical steps to take.  Give the consumer the right info to make an informed choice.

Permalink Reply by Alan Lake on January 31, 2015 at 4:25

Halal is a tax on the kaffir, the money is used to promote Islam, and some is proven to support terrorism.  

In addition, the acceptance of the Halal supply chain by government organisations (schools, hospitals, prisons, etc), is the promotion of cartelisation in favour of one particular group, by the government - and is illegal.  British butchers have been put out of business by the creation of this Mafia like closed shop licencing in the supply chain.

If you become aware of a woman being raped on Langley Lane, you can instead walk home through Robin Street and avoid the disturbing sight and moral dilemma.  However, that does not deal with the problem, and it lets the rapist know that he can continue getting away with his crime, because those around him are not up to dealing with it.

Permalink Reply by Antony on February 3, 2015 at 10:47

Halal on MSM ! ; http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/outcry-after-underco...

Permalink Reply by Kinana on February 3, 2015 at 13:32

a friend, Keith Thomas, had this comment deleted from the Times:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/leaders/article4338944.ece

[KT] It's unlabelled. And ALL the certifications are done by private businesses according to their own rules and commercial interests (they want market share, profit margins etc).
There is a direct line from payment of halal certification fees by producers (like abattoirs) through halal certification profits to donations (zakat) to Islamic charities who may be funding jihad. I stress “may”, because “Those fighting for religious cause or cause of Allah” (their terminology, not mine) is just one of the eight permitted uses zakat (or zakah).
So halal is qualitatively different from the Jewish shechita process, in that halal has a political dimension, not merely an animal welfare one.

http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/

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another comment from my friend

'Did you know that Nandos give 20% discount to servicemen in uniform? So the servicemen are being enticed to contribute cash to a fund that could - at a stretch - purchase the bullet that shot them or the knife that beheaded them.'

http://www.nandos.co.uk/nhs-emergency-services-and-military-discount

Permalink Reply by Antony on February 3, 2015 at 16:32

It will be interesting to see where this story goes, many "animal rights" types are somewhat "leftfield" and opposed to the cjm, additionally, many people who are normally apathetic or keep their heads down will be rankled by this story, and hopefully start up a new front in the war against islamization.

Permalink Reply by AJ Liberphile on February 4, 2015 at 9:40

From my forthcoming book:

In the halal (lawful under sharia) method of slaughter, no pre-stunning is permissible; the animal is slaughtered by having its throat cut while the head points to Mecca and the slaughterman chants “Allahu Akbar” (‘God is great’) while killing. Animals are supposed to be killed quickly, with a single sweep of a surgically-sharp knife. They should not see the knife before they are slaughtered, or witness the death of other animals. Of course in practice, many of these rules are often ignored; many halal slaughtermen enjoy their work and practice even greater barbarity than do non-halal animal killers.

You might think that halal certification would only be required for meat intended for Moslem consumption. In fact, halal certification is required for many products, including financial services, cosmetics, and non-meat food and drink. Halal products comprise a global market worth $2.3 trillion[i]. Since the 1980s, Moslem pressure groups around the world have successfully lobbied for halal certification (described as a ‘gold mine’ in the Indonesian Jakarta Post[ii]), even in countries where the Moslem population is way below 10% such as the UK, US and Australia. In many cases, schools, hospitals, prisons and entire supermarket chains provide exclusively halal meat. 70% of New Zealand's lamb exports to the United Kingdom are now halal certified, and 100% of the meat slaughtered in Paris, France is now halal.

Opponents say that halal slaughter is cruel, and that certification fees, ultimately largely paid by non-Moslems, go towards Moslem prothletising and other causes, even including terrorism. In other words, the widespread adoption of halal is another form of protection money, or jizya (a tax on non-Moslems) and dhimmitude (subservience to Islam). The December 2014 Lindt Sydney siege is an example of what orthodox Moslems may do to businesses that refuse to pay the halal certification jizya extortion tax.

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[i] http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/02/28/halal-labeling-the-next-gold-mine.html#sthash.bDDIsOL3.dpuf

[ii] http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/02/28/halal-labeling-the-next-gold-mine.html

Permalink Reply by AJ Liberphile on February 4, 2015 at 9:48

Alan, I think this is a poor analogy. To clarify, I'm not suggesting that people become pesca/vege-tarian simply to avoid halal slaughter while depriving themselves of necessary nutrition; rather that it has many benefits: health, spiritual, animal welfare, personal/global/national karma and ecological.

Alan Lake said:

If you become aware of a woman being raped on Langley Lane, you can instead walk home through Robin Street and avoid the disturbing sight and moral dilemma.  However, that does not deal with the problem, and it lets the rapist know that he can continue getting away with his crime, because those around him are not up to dealing with it.

Permalink Reply by Alan Lake on February 4, 2015 at 11:44

AJ, sure, but there was a danger of someone new to the trickery of Political Islam, mis-interpreting your comment as advocating accommodation and compromise. So my example is to highlight that appeasement, compromise, conciliation and accommodation, do not work with Islamic Fascists, and only serve to embolden them.

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