It takes a nation to protect the nation
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Socialism, Conservatism & Liberalism - some definitionsSocialism: A theory of government based upon the ownership and control of capital, land, and means of production by the community as a who… Started by Alan LakeLatest Reply |
Civic Nationalism v. Ethnic NationalismThis isn't really a 4 Freedoms issue, but since it keeps coming up, and its interesting and it interplays into questions of how to construc… Started by Alan LakeLatest Reply |
Our women on the verge of tears: where does this lead?Take a look at these videos, then I will post what I see. Started by Alan LakeLatest Reply |
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Terminal Societal SicknessI've been noticing more and more news stories lately that indicate a kind of terminal or pathological sickness in Western societies. It's… Started by Alan Lake |
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Tribalism: the end of Egalitarianism and Democracy?We begin this discussion with a comment from Paul: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/muslim-prayer-hall-in-corsica-v... In reference to t… Started by Alan Lake |
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Anacyclosis: political development cycles & familial development cyclesOr the cycle from poor & virtuous to rich & corrupt/decadent. I've often thought that the 7-stages of governmental development &… Started by Alan Lake |
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Lauren Southern - leaving politicsLauren Southern does a 'big reveal' on the alt right in this video. I've made some comments on it to save everyone the time of listening t… Started by Alan Lake |
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The Erosion of Conservatism - from von Mises to Hayek to the present dayGreat thinkers from von Mises to Hayek have highlighted weaknesses of the Conservative tradition. This forum is to collect articles on tha… Started by Alan Lake |
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Failed Heroes of the Left: Keir StarmerKeir Starmer was head of the CPS and Director of Public Prosecutions from July 2008 till Nov 2013. During this time it is thought that ther… Started by Alan Lake |
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The Power EliteThe Power Elite is a book written by the sociologist, C. Wright Mills, in 1956. In it Mills calls attention to the interwoven interests of… Started by Alan Lake |
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Failed Heroes of the Left: Tony BlairI know neighbour of Tony Blair, that was invited to tea at his house. My friend is not interested in politics, but his quick impression ma… Started by Alan Lake |
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Failed Heroes of the Left: John Money (of Johns Hopkins University)John Money was a proponent of paedophilia, sado-masochism, the breakdown of the family, orgies, and bi-sexuality. The significance of this… Started by Alan Lake |
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Oct 17, 2021 Reply by Alan Lake |
The Death of Democracy - collected articlesFrancis Fukuyama v. Samuel Huntingdon: Who wins? - by Alamgir Hussain The Islam-West Conflict: A Historical Study Monday, 24 September 2012… Started by Alan Lake |
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Jul 12, 2021 Reply by Alan Lake |
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Mission Overview
Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
The 4 Freedoms
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
- Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"
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