The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"For him to refuse to consider the whole picture and the nature of the refugees flowi…"

Kinana replied Sep 27, 2015 to Failed Heroes of the Left: the Dalai Lama

3 Sep 27, 2015
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"I like your classifications of Truth1 and Truth2. T1 'is aimed at being objective' T…"

Kinana replied Jul 16, 2015 to What is Truth / What is an Explanation?

10 Jul 16, 2015
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"Communication is a difficult process even between people who are committed to each o…"

Kinana replied Jul 14, 2015 to What is Truth / What is an Explanation?

10 Jul 16, 2015
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"How many times does he say, 'I do not understand'?  'I am shocked???' This is typica…"

Kinana replied Jan 19, 2015 to Not a Single Muslim Has Died Due to Islamophobia

5 Jan 19, 2015
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"For many years as I walked around London I would regularly see posters advertising a…"

Kinana replied Jun 7, 2014 to Failed Heroes of the Left: Karl Marx

8 Jun 17, 2014
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"In my University days Karl Marx was the ‘messiah’ according many of my professors. …"

Kinana replied Jun 6, 2014 to Failed Heroes of the Left: Karl Marx

8 Jun 17, 2014
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"As Saul Alinsky said, 'Never have a conversation with your enemy, because that human…"

Kinana replied Jun 5, 2014 to Failed Heroes of the Left: Karl Marx

8 Jun 17, 2014
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"P says: 'You are wrong.  I am a Muslim, so I know more about Islam than you...' R: I…"

Kinana replied May 25, 2014 to "You cannot hold Muslims responsible for the evil deeds of a minority"

13 Jun 15, 2014
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"more of the media are gunning for UKIP as the elections get closer. apparently all p…"

Kinana replied Mar 11, 2014 to The Ideological Chasm

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"The man used to be EDL but left a few months ago. Alan, at the beginning the groups…"

Kinana replied Feb 28, 2014 to The Ideological Chasm

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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