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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Tony Blair is trying to protect his paymasters (Saudi Arabia) and dance around the f…"

Kinana replied Sep 6, 2021 to Failed Heroes of the Left: Tony Blair

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"Should we now feel sorry for Matthew Goodwin?   The revolution/fascists eat their ow…"

Kinana replied Feb 16, 2021 to Dr. Matthew Goodwin: Islamophobia According to a Leftist Snob

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"This is an important thread since he will be in the headlines for the next few years…"

Kinana replied Jul 1, 2020 to Failed Heroes of the Left: Keir Starmer

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"And to think that Rome survived as a State for over 700 years, in many different per…"

Kinana replied Apr 4, 2020 to Anacyclosis: political development cycles & familial development cycles

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"Once you reach a certain level of social status it seems you are untouchable.  I jus…"

Kinana replied Jul 22, 2019 to Failed Heroes of the Left: Jacqui Smith

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" New York D…"

Kinana replied May 16, 2019 to Failed Heroes of the Left: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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"A fellow traveler For the record: August 2016 “Borders are the worst invention ever…"

Kinana replied Apr 19, 2019 to Failed Heroes of the Left: Peter Sutherland

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Kinana replied Feb 24, 2019 to Failed Heroes of the Left: Billy Bragg

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"She is a sharia-pusher. Why should we respect her views on democracy? Muslim Congre…"

Kinana replied Feb 4, 2019 to Failed Heroes of the Left: ILHAN Omar

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"Great analysis Alan.  Right at the end though she says she agrees that the burqa has…"

Kinana replied Sep 27, 2018 to Kay Burley v. Andrew Bridgen: dialogue analysis

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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