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It takes a nation to protect the nation

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/15/alt-right-man...

Note the choice of language, (something we all do of course).

But she is talking about you and me.

: dark- unsavoury- somewhere far worse- hatred- …resentment of…..women…- disturbing- troubling- racist- white supremacy- misogyny= a barrage of negative terms.

The majority of white women in America voted for Trump, in other words the alt-right is not just angry old white men radicalizing young white men. These young white men, and women, are angry of their own accord. And the problems and feelings are not confined to one race/ethnic group. It is not just people of European descent that can be nationalist patriots, (or racists).

The conservatives are gaining real power and the Left just do not understand why, not what they did wrong but how their moral condemnation of everything right-wing did not prevent it. Because they, the Left do not believe that anything that they have done is wrong, they are the good guys that love everyone and have all of the right answers. The lives they have devastated are mere collateral damage and irrelevant, people that disagree with them have no rights and are very unsavory persons.

I have not come over any of the sites that Abi Wilkinson gives the impression of being typical, that women like her deserve to be raped. I have no doubt that they exist, but they are not typical and they do not represent me and my views. She goes on to paint a very unpleasant picture of the male gender in general. I know that certain attitudes to women are out there, but I have to say that most men that I have met basically have respect for women.

On a global scale the attitude to women in some cultures is appalling, but these feminists live in civilized societies where women are considered equal. The radical feminists’ hatred of men is mostly unjustified and unhelpful in the West. There are alt-right females of all ages and they I expect are more concerned with cultures that systematically discriminate and abuse women.

The problem with socialists and feminists is that they have, in free and democratic countries won all of their battles. And yet they continue to fight for complete control. When what they should be doing is directing their efforts to moral condemnation of the cultures that are not free and democratic.

Trump has done unsavory things, but Abi neglects to mention Bill Clinton's sexual wrongdoing (or Hillary’s lies). As, mostly, it was supporters of Trump that were verbally and physically abused, it is not surprising that some kept quiet about supporting Trump. I doubt if this election had much to do with feminism; abortion and gay marriage certainly played a role though. Multiculturalism just does not work; Mexicans, African-Americans and Muslims clearly defined that they belonged to separate cultures prior to this election. 

America as we know it is White-America, and naturally all of the European-Americans whose ancestors built and defined America do not want it to become divided between large conflicting ethnic minorities.

The young men that are leaving Europe to fight for ISIS are all Muslims and come from separate cultural enclaves in Western countries. They are Muslims not Europeans.

I have not noticed that the Alt-Right are recruiting terrorists, and I cannot see that they generally have contempt for and prejudice against women. Once again I have to say, it is right to counter unsavory attitudes to women in Western countries, but it would be better to show more solidarity with the sisters that are suffering terribly in uncivilized countries. And what about the grooming gangs, why are they not aggressively condemning the criminal Muslim attitude to women in western countries.

Most of the people that voted for Trump were white but they were not misogynists.

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I clicked on her name to find her profile on the Guardian, and this is all they have:

Abi Wilkinson

Abi Wilkinson is a freelance journalist based in London writing about politics, inequality, gender, popular culture, and anything else that takes her fancy

In other words, she's a nothing.

I don't know much about the Alt-right or Richard Spencer, though there are things they are saying that I can agree with.

Had him confused with Robert Spencer a while, but I have followed and admired Robert for years, and soon noticed the difference.

As long as they do not start persecuting Jews they are all-right by me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Taylor

I have much in common with Jared Taylor.

"Race is an important aspect of individual and group identity. Of all the fault lines that divide society—language, religion, class, ideology—it is the most prominent and divisive. Race and racial conflict are at the heart of the most serious challenges the Western World faces in the 21st century... Attempts to gloss over the significance of race or even to deny its reality only make problems worse.[29]"

This Guardianista's white guilt was simply too ingrained ! ; https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/28/alt-right-onl...

The infantile level of Guardianista thinking:

Moving on from Harris, I unlocked the Pandora’s box of “It’s not racist to criticise Islam!” content.

Yes, it is not racist to criticise Islam because Islam is not racial.

And where an ideology is racial, as in Nazism for Germans, it is not racist to criticise an ideology, because an ideology is different from the people that hold it and is different from the individual in front of you propounding it.

No wonder the dumb turd is 'anonymous'.


Alan Lake said:

The infantile level of Guardianista thinking:

Moving on from Harris, I unlocked the Pandora’s box of “It’s not racist to criticise Islam!” content.

Yes, it is not racist to criticise Islam because Islam is not racial.

And where an ideology is racial, as in Nazism for Germans, it is not racist to criticise an ideology, because an ideology is different from the people that hold it and is different from the individual in front of you propounding it.

No wonder the dumb turd is 'anonymous'.

That must have been penned by some Journo from the Guardian itself. So few people bother with the Rotten corpse that is the rag of choice for the criminally insane.  They must have employed some ex Sunday sport fantasist.

There is only one definition, for each of these terms. Otherwise you can call someone that discriminates against homosexuals a racist, and that makes no sense. Just as much as calling someone that is afraid of Islam an islamophobe makes no sense. You cannot call someone that dislikes Christians a racist, you cannot therefore call someone that dislikes a Muslim a racist. (The exception is Jew that is both a religious and racial term).

Racist:

a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to anotherthe comments have led to her being called a racist.

Racial:

relating to race: a racial minority.• on the grounds of or connected with difference in race: racial hatred.

Muslim:

noun, follower of the religion of Islam.

adjective, relating to the Muslims or their religion.

Islam:

noun, the religion of the Muslims, a monotheistic faith regarded as revealed through Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.

the Muslim world: "the most enormous complex of fortifications in all Islam".

As I have noticed when analyzing leftist writers, they do not care about; truth, honesty or being correct.Their only objective is to win by moral intimidation. Morality also has a clear definition, but morals are a choice and a convenience and are not absolutely true.

Morality: 

noun, (plural moralitiesprinciples concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.• a particular system of values and principles of conduct, especially one held by a specified person or society: a bourgeois morality.• the extent to which an action is right or wrong: behind all the arguments lies the issue of the morality of the possession of nuclear weapons.Political correctness is all about being wrong and defending being wrong with dogma.

Of course what the Left think is that people that dislike Muslims do so because most Muslims have brown skin. What they do not want to concede is that people that are not racists are still rationally and with good reason afraid of Islam and thereby wary of Muslims.

A humerous end to the Guardianista article ?! ; http://voxday.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/agree-and-amplify.html

Priceless!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hatred

Self-hatred (also called self-loathing) refers to an extreme dislike or hatred of oneself, or being angry at or even prejudiced against oneself. The term is also used to designate a dislike or hatred of a group, family, social class, or stereotype to which one belongs and/or has. For instance, "ethnic self-hatred" is the extreme dislike of one's ethnic group or cultural classification. It may be associated with aspects of autophobia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kayla-matthews/how-to-tell-if-youre-s...

If you feel like a woman trapped inside a man's body you can get a "sex-change" paid for by the taxpayer. (When what you really need is a psychiatrist, as you have mental problem). I wonder if feeling like a black man trapped inside a white man's body qualifies for a free skin transplant? Identifying as black when you are in fact white is a mental condition.

That needs treatment.

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