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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Great thinkers from von Mises to Hayek have highlighted weaknesses of the Conservative tradition.  This forum is to collect articles on that theme.

Hayek in "Why I am not a conservative" (PDF attached) said, echoing a theme started by Von Mises, that conservatism is doomed, if it only ever tries to act as a restraining nfluence against progressivism, collectivism and socialism.  To win, conservatism has to stand for something, and that's not such an easy stance to define.

Well, its a bit confusing to read from a leading light of conservatism, why they are not one!  I think Hayek's essay, though it served a useful purpose in highlighting the weakness of conservatism against gradual erosion by its enemies, confused the issue somewhat.  The position is clarified by Madsen Pirie in "Why Hayek is a Conservative" (PDF attached).

This is an excellent overview of his thinking, referencing Frames in a way reminiscent of Heidegger.  Summarising his book, "The Fatal Conceit" he says: 

The fatal conceit is this belief that man's individual mind is wiser than the collective mind of his society over the centuries. The latter not only holds more information, it has the advantage of having been tested by time. ... 'The new manners of conduct were not adopted because anybody thought they were better. They were adopted because somebody who acted on them profited from it and his group gained from it.'

further:

Hayek makes what must be, for the left, a disturbing inversion of their world view of values. They view modern 'scientific' socialism as a rejection of man's primitive past, and the imposition upon his world of the products of rational insight. Not so, says Hayek. 'Our innate moral emotions and instincts were acquired in the hundreds of thousand years — probably half a million years — in which Homo Sapiens lived in small hunting and gathering groups.'

and finally:

Hayek remains firmly committed to freedom. People must be allowed to make choices, and the overall outcome must be the result of those individual decisions. Hayek now treats society as a process just as he treats the economy as a process.

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Pamela Geller reprises this theme of the weakness of traditional Conservatism, railing against the NRO, after its callow accusations against her as it pretends to support Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/04/whats_wrong_with_the_right.h...

Comment by Anthony:

Good article by Pamela Geller there - I'd actually be less generous with the"orthodox party political right"(including the far right) , 'principles' for them are just window dressing to attract grass roots voters, the Republicans in the US and the Tories over here are just a party for ruling elite type bankers & swindlers.

Here's one of the current "great, avante garde" thinkers, software engineer, novelist, publisher Vox Day.

https://youtu.be/R_BnnN74MnE

He's caught up with Hayek, circa 1961.

As western civilisation circles round the plug hole, being washed into oblivion, a few people are waking up.  It's clear from the questions asked by his followers during this livestream, that Hayek 1961 would be a revelation to them.

Here's another one by Vox Day.

I think Alan would like it, especially towards the end.

Thanks, both added to my Watchlist :-)

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

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The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
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An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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