The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

Overview
4Freedoms is a hub where many groups work together to stop racism, supremacism, and other threats to secular democracy.

1. All members support the 4 freedoms below,  and try to protect those who become victim when those 4 protections are not in place. 

2. The 10 reasons show us that the threat is real and immediate, so we mustn't avoid the difficult actions.

3. The 7 Characteristics of a Political Ideology tell us what those political components are, therefore, which parts of Islam must be removed to stop the construction of a parallel society which subverts Secular Democracy.

4. To convert these ideas to concrete actions, there is a12 Point Plan for Muslims to de-politicise the religion the religion and enforce equal human rights.

The 4 Freedoms
As Karl Popper shows in The Open Society and its Enemies, democracies are vulnerable.  Here we have focussed on four of the most serious vulnerabilities, and given their correction, by re-defining the 4 base freedoms so as to be self-preserving, instead of them allowing self-destruction.  This is actually an application of Hobbes first law of nature: that the organism (or system) must preserve itself.

Some of these caveats have been recognised by the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) in its 2003 Annual Report (p.5), as stated here:

In its judgment, the Court first noted that freedom of thought, of religion, of expression and of association as guaranteed by the Convention could not deprive the authorities of a State in which an association, through its activities, jeopardised that State’s institutions, of the right to protect those institutions. It necessarily followed that a political party whose leaders ... put forward a policy which failed to respect democracy or which was aimed at the destruction of democracy and the flouting of the rights and freedoms recognised in a democracy, could not lay claim to the Convention’s protection against penalties imposed on those grounds.

A constitution is a form of machine. It is an attempt to hard code an ideology into a machinery of government. There are two principles which every machine (except weapons) must follow:

(a) It carries out the function for which it was made
(b) It does not destroy itself

Weapons like bombs are exceptions designed to perform (b) in order to achieve (a).  But all other machines are not supposed to destroy themselves, because if they do that they cannot perform the function for which they were made.  Because our current constitutions and ideologies do not incorporate self-protecting clauses to ensure the survival of the machine, they are in danger of being slowly strangled by actors clever enough to exploit those vulnerabilities.

Not all ideologies are constructed with these weaknesses.  Islam is probably the best self-protecting ideology to date.  However, the Secular Democratic Marketplace has 4 huge vulnerabilities, and it is these that the 4 Freedoms of this website aim to fix.

1. Self-Protecting Freedom of Speech: 

Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of free speech and democracy
Our political system should give as much freedom as possible, but not so much as to tolerate its own destruction. 

2. Self-Protecting Freedom of Election: 
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of free speech and democracy

3. Self-Protecting Freedom from Religion
It is understood that all citizens in the territory of the nation have equal rights, and these are protected by legal oversight of the public sphere.  But it is necessary to block the gaining of special privileges and dispensations by appealing to religious ideology or cultural tradition.  Religion and culture are free to operate within the private sphere.  Whenever they begin to affect the public sphere, they become regulated by law. Freedom 3 is like a Public-Private freedom which stops Islam claiming special rights by sneaking private sphere exemptions into the public sphere. Thus a burqa could be worn at home, but not on the street.

4. Self-Protecting Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed only if it can be shown that it does not favour any party.  A society can choose to endorse immigration or not, but this constitutional framework will forbid immigration which changes the voter balance.

For example, Tony Blair used the mass importation of labour voters to strengthen his position.  The Democrats in the US have for years used a lax attitude to illegal immigration (plus amnesties) as a way of increasing their Hispanic vote.  

It might be argued that this voter importation by Blair and Obama can only lead to the self-destruction of the society, if the resident natives finally become angry about having their voting rights overwhelmed, and form an armed insurrection.  That is debatable.  However, what is not debatable is that this unbalanced voter importation is a violation of the principle of democracy.  So even if it does not lead to the destruction of the society per se, it leads to the defeat of the one of the principles that the society was formed to perform, that is, it breaks generic principle (a) above, of machine construction.

We are not hopeful of those corrections being adopted, because SDM rests on an even more fundamental fallacy: that it is similar to Adam Smith's free marketplace of prices - which leads to a successful economy.  Therefore, The 'open marketplace' of ideas driven by an invisible hand of rational self interest, is thought to lead to successful government.  

But ideological faction is not equivalent to economic grouping, because the rational self interest of ideological actors performs differently to that of economic actors. Consequently, it is more likely that the open society of SDM, will succumb gradually to any strong, unified gang, of which, Islam is one example.

Further discussion of these concepts is in this forum.

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The 12 Point Plan to Restore Equal Civil Rights

To roll back the intrusion of religion into the secular state, we mandate the 12 Point Plan.

There are two formulations of the plan.  The general one is non-discriminatory and non-specific, so it can be codified into law without breaking the 3rd of the Four Freedoms.  The example one mentions Muslims by way of example, to make it easier to understand what problem is being addressed.  But of course, these laws would still apply to everyone, and there would be impacts on the Christian and Jewish communities.

The 12 Point Plan - Example Form

  1. Have audio and video monitoring inside mosques, for hate speech and sedition
  2. Stop cowardly hiding, and start prosecuting Muslim hate crimes against Jews, Gays and Apostates
  3. Ban face coverings like the Burqa and Niqab in public places
  4. Stop Muslim forced marriage, bigamy, child grooming and under age FGM
  5. Stop sectarian discrimination in public places. No more Muslim only swimming pool sessions. We kuffar are not dirty!  
  6. Stop excluding police and fire services from mosques. They are not embassies on diplomatic ground! Stop Traffic Warden exclusion from around mosques at prayer times.  One law for all!
  7. Take action on electoral fraud in Tower Hamlets and elsewhere.  Also take a stronger line on all immigration, which is a form of electoral fraud in favour of Labour.
  8. Take action against Muslim leaders* who make statements that excuse terrorism or are inclined towards seditious acts.
  9. Stop giving money to Muslim groups as a reward for their bombings and terrorism
  10. Stop mandating Halal meat in schools, hospitals, prisons and other institutions. Instead, it may be offered as an at-cost option, if the demanding individual wishes to pay for it.**  Also, restrictive trade practices around Halal meat production are illegal.  No more closed shop trades - equal work rights for all.
  11. Mosques are political command and control centres.  Therefore, no funding for the construction or support of mosques should be allowed from foreign countries, in the same way that we would not allow the Chinese government to construct command and control centres in the UK.
  12. We must protect vulnerable children and young people from propaganda by foreign governments and political coercion  by parents. Firstly, stop the funding by Islamic countries, of education in subjects which can impart a political statement or view, as these are currently being used to indoctrinate and propagandise our youth and students. Secondly, it should be illegal for any child to become a Muslim before voting age, since Islam is a political party, and the punishment for leaving it is death.  We would not accept that parents register their babies as members of the Communist Party, for which the punishment on leaving is death.
  • * Lord Ahmed threatened 10,000 Muslim men to stop the screening of a film in parliament.  Fiyaz Mughal made statements giving excuses for the 7/7 bombings.  Shahid Malik talked gladly of the time when parliament is ruled by Muslims (a 'race' grouping, not a political grouping).
  • ** What I am saying is that if you want it, it can be couriered in by a private company, but you have to pay for it.  That is to say, Halal meat will not be banned from schools and hospitals, you can have it if you want, but you have to fund it, not the public.

    This should come across as perfectly reasonable.  If I want school to provide me with a diet of caviar and avocados, school should not block it, but I should pay for a private company to dispatch it.  The cost will obviously be enormous, but thats not our problem.

    The second reason why it should come across as reasonable is that you can then explain that Halal practitioners assert that everyone else's food is SO DIRTY that it can't share the kitchen.  Therefore, to save trouble, institutions convert to a pure Halal supply.

    Other cultures do not demand that same segregation and apartheid.  Therefore, since Muslims demand that segregation, they can have it, but must pay for it.  Their food should be prepared in a separate halal only kitchen, off site, owned privately, and dispatched to the school / hospital / prison for the person that has chosen to have it.

    Thus everyones needs can be met without discriminatory concessions to halal in the kitchen, and without discriminatory subsidy of halal to the recipient.
If he has a full plan he can just say:
"We have a 12 point plan on our website (or whatever), have you read it, as part of your preparation for this meeting?"
straightaway the interviewer looks foolish. Then
"Obviously there isn't time to go thru all the points of the program, so would you like me to explain just a few example points?"
Then he looks totally in control, and it gives him an opportunity to cherry pick the points which are the most incisive, the easiest for the audience to relate to, and the easiest to defend.

The 12 Point Plan - Legal Form

Crime
1. Stop and monitor hate speech in religious assemblies & publications
2. Stop hate crimes against Jews, gays and apostates
3. Stop face covering in public
4. Stop forced marriage, bigamy, child grooming and under age FGM

Discrimination & Privilege
5. Stop citizen exclusion from public buildings and areas
6. Stop Police, Fire service and Traffic Warden exclusion from privileged areas and buildings

Treason
7. Stop electoral fraud via immigration without consultation
8. Stop seditious statements by members of government institutions

Finance
9. Stop government subsidy of communities implicated in terrorism
10. Stop government funding of sectarian diets in public services
11. Stop foreign funding for construction of political centres
12. Stop foreign funding of education in subjects which can include a political statement or view

The 12 Segregations of Islamic Apartheid

Using Segregation and Sectarianism to construct a Parallel Society.

The rejection of integration is by forcing separation of the following.

Using Law

1. Parallel Courts outside the law, with their own legal code, for example Sharia Law
2.
 Privileges and Dispensations in law, for bigamy, probate, drunkenness, speeding etc
3. Privileged access breaching discrimination law, to public facilities like swimming pools

Using Command and Control Systems (CCS)

4. Command and Control System (CCS), organising the people outside government control
5. Communication channels, possibly masked in a foreign language, reporting to the CCS
6. Enforcement Groups (separate from the police), responding to the CCS, controlling the local area and applying Sharia

Using Financial Systems

7. Taxation thru Sharia Finance
8. Control of food chain, by Halal Certification
9. Control of workplaces, by discriminatory recruitment, giving a monocultural workforce

Using People

10. In schools: with indoctrination into antithetical political beliefs
11. By personal threat and observation: by face covering
12. By control of public spaces: intimidating others by a regular mob occupation (in prayer)

12 Point Plan for Muslims - to De-Politicise the Religion

The Islamic Caste System rejects integration by forcing the 12 separations below.  The de-politicisation of Islam is achieved by rescinding and banning these separations.

  1. Law: Parallel Courts outside the law, with their own legal code, for example Sharia Law
  2. Law: Privileges and Dispensations in law, for bigamy, probate, drunkenness, speeding etc
  3. Law: Privileged access breaching discrimination law, to public facilities like swimming pools
  4. CCS: Command and Control System (CCS), organising the people outside government control
  5. CCS: Communication channels, possibly masked in a foreign language, reporting to the CCS
  6. CCS: Enforcement Groups (separate from the police), responding to the CCS, controlling the local area and applying Sharia
  7. Financial System: Taxation thru Sharia Finance
  8. Financial System: Control of food chain, by Halal Certification
  9. Financial System: Control of workplaces, by discriminatory recruitment, giving a monocultural workforce
  10. People: Schools, with indoctrination into antithetical political beliefs
  11. People, by face covering
  12. People: Control of public spaces, intimidating others by a regular mob occupation

10 Reasons why Islam will win

It seems that Islam will replace Secular Democracy (SD) in Europe, but the US may wake up and adapt in time. The first 4 reasons represent characteristics of individual people, and the last 8 represent characteristics of the whole society.

  1. Hedonistic: the principle of SD is "pursue your own pleasure", but Muslims have Islamic duties
  2. Cowardly: SD citizens are too weak & cowardly to face the issues, so kill the canary instead
  3. Spoilt: SD Citizens don't appreciate the Freedom they've always had, so won't fight to keep it
  4. Complexity: SD is too complex and fragile for most intellectuals to defend: Islam is much easier
  5. Tribalism Works: the unified group will always beat the divided group. We've lost what used to bind us but Islam has kept its identity
  6. Intimidation Works: Islamism eliminates opposing speakers through violence &intimidation,then the remainder are easily silenced
  7. Intolerance Works: Islam's monoculturalism easily wipes out the multiculturalism of SD
  8. Infiltration Works: the SD principle of non-discrimination gives positions of power even to those who plan to destroy it. Islam denies power to outsiders.
  9. Erosion Works: SD max timescale is 5 years, Islam's is 500 years: the gradual change isn't obvious enough to motivate action
  10. Reproduction Works: Muslim population doubling every 10 years & currently around 10% so soon Sharia Law will be voted in place

4 Freedoms: Role of Members

The principal role of contributors to 4F is to preserve material related to our mission statement, that will otherwise disappear.  It is currently being removed by:

  • pro-Islamic operatives, and more will be removed later, as they rewrite history, and the conquest of the West is portrayed as a willing 'conversion'
  • Leftist activists, to protect their mythological conception of what is going on
  • politicians and administrators, (see Rotherham grooming gangs, etc) to protect themselves from prosecution

Just before the 'Nuremberg2' trials start, expect to see a lot more removals.  Material also disappears when it is routinely archived, as by newspapers that want to keep database costs down.  It also disappears when it is no longer findable. That nearly happened recently with the video on how a Muslim demographic of 20% is the tipping point for take-over of the society.  After a long search I managed to track a copy down, which I have now preserved.

So what does 4F provide that others don't?

  1. it preserves documents and videos that would otherwise get deleted or archived
  2. it curates a subset with key words, so there is more chance of finding old articles.  Without this, articles with generic content like 'terrorism' 'islam' 'gunmen' 'killed' 'masked' etc. can be impossible to locate
  3. it catalogues the documents in a way that makes them browsable. This last aspect is very important when you do not realise what search terms you ought to have put in. For example, a newbie may search for "grooming gangs cover up Rotherham" without realising that the closing down / renaming of CROP is a factor in that issue.  However, if he browses the articles collected under that subcategory, he will find it. Or he may search for "burqa criminal mask" without realising that the burqa has also been used often by terrorists escaping capture (and the word 'crime' does not appear in those terrorism articles).

It is because of this important role, that argument over moral rights and wrongs etc, has a secondary importance here, and consequently, those who waste our time behaving in an improper manner, are given short shrift.

I apologise in advance for any copyright violations.  I would like to point out to anyone who feels their copyright has been violated that we have very few readers, and that somebody has to preserve these records for the benefit of future generations (and historians).  Also, our members are unpaid, and put in a lot of hours from their private time, to curate this valuable information.

The 12 point plan to restore equal civil rights

http://4freedoms.com/group/argumentation/forum/topics/keyframeworks...

misses out some obvious remedies like these:

(a) Make it illegal to recommend the execution of a person for leaving an ideology or group.  Clearly, the 'death to apostates' rule in Islam is a breach of the freedom someone in our society is supposed to have, to entertain new beliefs. The only constraints on a persons behaviour, are those defined in UK law.  If that action like leaving Islam, isn't constrained by UK law, then endorsing their murder is an encouragement to crime and should be struck down.

(b) It could be made illegal to speak a foreign language in public, if you aren't a tourist, i.e. a non-UK passport holder.  The reasoning behind this is:

  • you must be able to speak English as a condition of citizenship anyway, so that option must be available to you
  • speaking in a foreign language is not fair on the English speakers around you.  They don't know if you are saying insulting things about them or organising (say in a shop) a way to scam them.
  • terrorists and criminals in this country are now able to use their private language and thus defeat the authorities attempts to monitor and control them.

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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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