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The tide of public opinion is turning against immigration

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New asylum seeker boats arrive at Christmas Island yesterday. Source: The Daily Telegraph

MORE than half of Australians want our borders closed and immigration ended.

New research, provided exclusively to The Daily Telegraph,reveals a dramatic swing against border issues, with 51 per cent in favour of saying no to all migrants - a 10 per cent jump since 2005.

Fears over falling job security and the burgeoning population putting more strain on infrastructure are two reasons for the shift in attitudes. The federal opposition said yesterday the anti-immigration sentiment was due to rising public anger about the number of asylum seekers attempting to enter the country.

Just a third of the 2000 people questioned by Quantum Market Research for AustraliaSCAN believed overseas migration made Australia "a more interesting and exciting place", down from almost half in 1995.

Almost two thirds said they believed migrants should try to "adopt the Australian way of life" when they arrived.

The number who believe the country has room to accommodate more people also plunged to less than a third, down from 42 per cent a decade ago.

Monash University migration expert Bob Birrell said the results showed public opinion about immigration had moved into new territory.

"I think they are right to be worried, we have record levels of immigration and as a consequence we are allowing 100,000 migrants to enter the workforce at a time when employment growth is at a level lower than that," Dr Birrell said.

"People are concerned that the present rate of population growth is not sustainable and is going to make Australia a poorer place to live rather than a better one."

The government's immigration and refugee program for 2012-13 is expected to reach a record 203,000 people, similar to the mass migration intakes of the 1960s.

 

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New Asylum seeker boats arrive at Christmas Island yesterday.
Source: The Daily Telegraph

Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison blamed Labor's border protection policies for public hostility to migration.

"So long as Labor continue to crash confidence as a result of their failures on our borders, they will continue to crash community confidence in our immigration program," he said. "That's why the Coalition will reinstate proven border protection policies to stop the boats, getting our borders back under control and restoring the integrity in our immigration program."

A spokesman for Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said migration had brought substantial economic and cultural benefits to Australia, but net overseas migration numbers had blown out under the Howard government due to an influx of low-skilled workers who abused the system.

"Our immigration reforms are delivering a sustainable level of migration, while responding to labour market needs," he said.

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The word that does not appear in this info is the word 'illegal'.

It seems like the population is saying NO to all immigration, both legal and illegal.  right?

And are 'asylum seekers' those who just show up (by boat) and ask to be let into the country?

And the phrase 'responding to labour market needs' is hardly a long term policy for letting people into the country and become citizens.  Compatibility concerns are ignored in this process and when the 'labour market' no longer needs the newly arrived employees what happens then?

There are entire industries that rely on immigrant workers, and basically it is because these industries want staff to work like slaves.  The companies expect to be able to call on the worker 7 days a week, the workers work for 8 hours (or more) without even the time for toilet breaks or to drink a glass of water.  And overtime beyond the minimum contractual hours is paid at the existing rates of pay.  If it wasn't for the minimum wage, they wouldn't even pay £6 per hour.  Sick leave is something the workers are not permitted to believe even exists.

Think about this next time you go to a restaurant.  Next time you are tucking into a £15 meal, it is probably prepared by some exhausted soul who is working despite infections.  

The immigrants have little connection with native Brits, so don't even know they have rights as an employee.

That's not a criticism of anyone here.  But we should expect the costs of various products to rise significantly if the companies actually treated their employees as less than slaves.

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