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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"I tried to have a look at the Amazon preview of this book, but there's so little to…"

Joe replied Oct 1, 2015 to Review of 'Motoons' - by Dag Walker

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"Tom Holland gave a talk about "deradicalizing Mohammed".  It is such a load of crap…"

Joe replied May 31, 2015 to In the Shadow of the Sword: The Birth of Islam and the Rise of the Global Arab Empire

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Joe replied Apr 23, 2014 to “Easy Meat” -- On Muslim Grooming Gangs

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"I received my copy of Schacht & Bosworth eds. (Oxford University Press, 1974), T…"

Joe replied Apr 9, 2014 to United in Hate - the Left and Islam

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Joe replied Mar 26, 2014 to Geert Wilders: Marked for Death: Islam’s War Against the West and Me

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"The "Dutch" rapper who made a video inciting the assassination of the leader of the…"

Joe replied Mar 19, 2014 to Geert Wilders: Marked for Death: Islam’s War Against the West and Me

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"In the early 20th century, "islamophobia" meant "the justified fear that moderate mu…"

Joe replied Feb 27, 2014 to United in Hate - the Left and Islam

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"We really shouldn't be surprised that politicians and the media are so slow to real…"

Joe replied Feb 7, 2014 to Inspire Magazine: Al Qaeda and the Government Cover-up

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"Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.  Probably as important for us to read this as to…"

Joe replied Feb 14, 2013 to #Actual Books

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"I wanted to get an idea of where was positioning itself. A roug…"

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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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