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Hackney acid attack – Moment bystanders pour water on victims after corrosive substance hurled over them in street

Footage shows the shirtless men being doused in buckets of water by onlookers as they desperately try to wash the corrosive substance off their bodies.

A man is doused with water after he had the corrosive substance thrown at him

The two men were both rushed to hospital with burns following the broad daylight horror in Hackney at around 7.20pm yesterday.

They remain in a non life threatening condition in hospital and no arrests have been made so far.

It came just hours after cops were raced to another acid attack in nearby Walthamstow.

A man was walking on Walthamstow High Street just after 6.30am when two men wearing burkhas chucked the substance over him.

They then fled the scene in a waiting car, with cops still hunting the suspects.


The UK has one of the highest rates of acid attacks per capita in the world, according to Acid Survivors Trust International (ASTI).

It claims the country does not have "tight controls on acid sales" or "legislation specific to acid attacks".

ASTI's figures, quoting the police, reveal the number of recorded attacks has increased nearly three-fold from 228 recorded crimes in 2012 to 601 attacks in 2016.

Gang disputes are said to be behind the rise in acid attacks in London and other British cities.

London has emerged as a hot spot for acid attacks in recent years, with more than half of incidents within the UK taking place in the capital.

The number of cases more than doubled from less than 200 in 2014 to 431 in 2016, with Scotland Yard focusing on specific parts of the city.

The men remain in hospital and no arrests have been made The men were rushed to east London hospitals
The men were rushed to east London hospitalsCredit: UK News in Pictures

The police said neither men had life-threatening injuries

It's thought the police were initially called to Downs Rd and then Cricketfield Rd in Hackney

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Who are the people doing these attacks? 

Why are they being allowed to continue living in Britain?

I am thinking collective blame and collective punishment here.

If the groups to which these savage criminals belong were not living in Britain would we be experiencing all of the stabbings, acid attacks, robberies and related crime?

Would we save vast sums of money used on maintaining a larger police force, building and maintaining prisons to keep the ones caught, courts and lawyers? Would we save huge amounts of money by not having to pay for the social benefits these groups get for free?

Then there is all of the suffering of the innocent victims of the violent crime these groups are responsible for.

As far as I can see it is the West-Indian, African and Muslim immigrant groups that are mostly responsible. The only logical conclusion to draw is the these groups must be deported in their entirety. If they were not here there would not be all of this disgusting crime. As long as they are here the crime will continue. No other measures or expense can end this crime.


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