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Kuffarphobia in Canada

To fight for the 4 Freedoms in Canada

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Free Speech being strangled in Canada

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Feb 27, 2017. 3 Replies

Even school lies

Started by Herman Van Keer Jan 22, 2016. 0 Replies

no hijab with the RCMP

Started by Herman Van Keer. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 18, 2016. 3 Replies

apologists for islamic rape

Started by Herman Van Keer Jan 17, 2016. 0 Replies

Tarek Fatah and Muslim Deception

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Joe Nov 29, 2014. 1 Reply

Honor Horror Trial Opens in Canada

Started by kim Israela. Last reply by paul collings Oct 9, 2013. 2 Replies

The Liberals are the the liberals

Started by paul collings. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 13, 2012. 1 Reply


Started by Dag Walker. Last reply by morgan Sep 23, 2010. 4 Replies

History of the Jihad against Canada (2001 - Ongoing)

Started by Charles Martel. Last reply by John Q. Public Dec 17, 2009. 3 Replies

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Comment by Antony on September 23, 2016 at 7:09
Comment by Herman Van Keer on January 16, 2016 at 4:27
Comment by Kinana on September 24, 2015 at 17:37

In Quebec, "the niqab issue has really hijacked the campaign"

i really recommend this website.  

I have listened to 

Ezra Levant
Rebel Commander

and he covers Islam and Israeli issues fearlessly.

Comment by Alan Lake on April 4, 2015 at 5:05

Not related to Islam, but of general interest (to understand just how low our society and criminal justice system has sunk):

Comment by Joe on January 21, 2014 at 14:30

Fantastic to see the Canadian PM showing true moral leadership.

If Canada wasn't so cold, I'd consider moving there.

Comment by Alan Lake on May 10, 2013 at 8:17

Canada jihadists considered poisoning air and water to murder up to 100,000 people

Plotting mass murder on a huge scale for their bloodthirsty god. "Via suspects discussed alternative plans to poison air/water to kill up to 100,000 people: Court docs," by Jessica Murphy for the Toronto Sun, May 9 (thanks to Santos):

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Two of the Via Rail terror suspects allegedly contemplated poisoning the air or water before settling on the plot to target a passenger train, according to newly released U.S. court documents.

The fresh details came to light Thursday as American authorities revealed an FBI sting operation scooped up a third man in connection to the foiled plot to derail a train between Toronto and New York.

Ahmed Abassi, a Tunisian citizen who previously lived in Canada, has been charged with two counts of knowingly making false statements in an application to immigration authorities for a green card and work visa, in order to facilitate an act of international terrorism.

"As alleged, Mr. Abassi came to the United States to pursue terrorist activity and support others in the same shameful pursuit. What Mr. Abassi didn't know was that one of his associates, privy to the details of his plan, was an undercover FBI agent," said FBI assistant director-in-charge George Venizelos in a statement.

Authorities arrested Abassi at New York's JFK airport on April 22, the same day Canadian law enforcement nabbed Chiheb Esseghaier, of Montreal, and Raed Jaser, of Toronto.

In its release, the U.S. Department of Justice alleges Abassi was responsible for radicalizing Esseghaier and met with him in New York City after travelling to the U.S. in mid-March. It is unclear where Abassi lived in Canada or how long he was there.

In recorded conversations with Esseghaier and the undercover FBI agent, Abassi allegedly talked about his desire to commit terrorist acts in the U.S. and other countries and his intention to provide support to terror organizations including an al-Qaida affiliate based in Iraq called the al-Nusrah Front.

It's also alleged he had plans to recruit others to his cause.

Court documents released by the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York describe how Abassi and Esseghaier worked to hatch the alleged plan including that "the defendant noted that he had suggested an alternative plot -- contaminating the air or water with bacteria in order to kill up to 100,000 people -- but that Esseghaier was dismissive of that plan."

The Department of Justice only unsealed Abassi's indictment Thursday.

Esseghaier and Jaser appeared in Canadian court April 23 and were charged with a series of terrorism-related offenses, including conspiring to murder people and to interfere with transportation facilities for a terrorist group....

Comment by Joe on February 12, 2013 at 23:47
Comment by Joe on January 31, 2013 at 19:11

The kind of woman who goes round demonising Pam Geller & Robert Spencer has now been arrested on terrorism charges.   This would be like Selma Yaqoob being arrested for terrorism.  I suppose stranger things have happened.

Comment by Netcon on May 16, 2012 at 21:32

Comment by Argonaut on October 15, 2009 at 1:23pm

From Google News:

Canadian Muslim group calls for burka ban
OTTAWA — A Muslim group on Thursday called for a ban on the wearing of burkas in public in Canada, saying it "marginalizes women."

"The burka has absolutely no place in Canada," said Farzana Hassan of the Muslim Canadian Congress.

"In Canada we recognize the equality of men and women. We want to recognize gender equality as an absolute. The burka marginalizes women."

Many Muslim women in this country are being forced to wear the loose robe and veil by their husbands and family, setting them apart from other Canadian women who are living freely, she claimed.

Hassan acknowledged the Koran preaches modesty, but "it doesn?t have to be that you have to cover your face or you have to wear a virtual tent wherever you go. This is not a requirement of Islam or the Koran."

Hassan blamed extremist Muslims for its rising popularity in Canada. "To counter this trend, we are asking for a ban on the burka," she said.

The call follows an edict by a top Muslim authority in Egypt calling for a ban on the burka.

Several European countries, including France, Italy and Denmark, have also called for burka bans in recent years.

Last year, an Ontario judge ruled that a woman testifying against her alleged rapist does not have the right based on religious beliefs to wear a veil in court. The decision is being appealed.

In 2007, a controversy also erupted over a Quebec election official's decree to Muslim women to remove their veil at the ballot box so that their identity could be verified.

Hassan was not able to say exactly how many women in Canada wear the burka, but said "it is on the rise" in Toronto and Montreal.

According to a 2006 census, there are some 800,000 Muslims living in Canada.

The Muslim Canadian Congress, which has some 300 members, describes itself as "providing a voice to Muslims who are not represented by existing organizations ... that are either sectarian or ethnocentric, largely authoritarian, and influenced by a fear of modernity and an aversion to joy."

Comment by Joe on December 13, 2011 at 15:39

homeless man attacks Occupy Toronto hippy hypocrites

"I get oppressed for being homeless and being white so fuck you all you fucking hippies" 


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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