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"The full article by Leo McKinstry is preserved here:http://4freedoms.com/group/commu…"

Alan Lake replied Mar 8, 2013 to There is a state of open warfare on young girls in this country

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"The whole cowardly establishment is now going to recognise this problem because one…"

Alan Lake replied Mar 6, 2013 to UK: DPP calls for new, tougher policy on child sex abuse

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"And now a test. Can you tell from the above article, whether or not this incident h…"

Alan Lake replied Feb 5, 2013 to Celebrity Saudi preacher 'raped' and tortured his five-year-old daughter to death

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"Looks like the fascists went a little bit too far in enforcing the propogation of th…"

Alan Lake replied Jan 9, 2013 to Life jail for son's murder over Koran studies

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"Re-reading the original HP thread of Leftist ninnies arguing their hypothetical toss…"

Alan Lake replied Jan 6, 2013 to Leftard Wadicals Exculpating Child Sex

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"These are disgusting people. I could write an article explaining the logic and physi…"

Alan Lake replied Jun 26, 2012 to Leftard Wadicals Exculpating Child Sex

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""Supporting and promoting man/boy relationships: they hold that when consensual thes…"

Alan Lake replied Jun 22, 2012 to ''Pedophilia should be recognized as a Way to live one's Sexuality'' vs. Violence on Children

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"Indoeuropean posted a lot of stuff about Loverboys in the Women's Room as well."

Alan Lake replied May 13, 2012 to Lover Boys: Grooming/Pimping Activities in Holland

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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