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Celebrity Saudi preacher 'raped' and tortured his five-year-old daughter to death

  • Lama al-Ghamdi's back was broken and she had been raped and burned
  • She died in October from her injuries after ten months in hospital 
  • Her father Fayhan al-Ghamdi, a prominent Islamist preacher, admitted beating her but was freed after agreeing to pay £31,000 compensation 
  • Campaign to give women and children better protection gaining momentum 


A Saudi preacher who tortured his five-year-old daughter to death has been released after agreeing to pay 'blood money', activists said.  

Lama al-Ghamdi died in October having suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, broken ribs and left arm, extensive bruising and burns. 

The child had also been repeatedly raped and the burned. 

Lama suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, broken ribs and back, bruising and burns. She had been raped repeatedly and died of her injuries in October

Lama suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, broken ribs and back, bruising and burns. She had been raped repeatedly and died of her injuries in October

Her father Fayhan al-Ghamdi, a prominent Islamist preacher who regularly appears on television in Saudi Arabia, served only a few months in jail despite admitting having used a cane and cables to inflict the injuries.

Activists from the group Women to Drive said the preacher had doubted Lama's virginity and had her checked up by a medic.


Randa al-Kaleeb, a social worker from the hospital where Lama was admitted, said the girl's back was broken and that she had been repeatedly raped. 

Her injuries were then burned. 

Rather than the death penalty or a long prison sentence, the judge in the case ruled the prosecution could only seek 'blood money', according to activists. 

The money is compensation for the next of kin under Islamic law. 

Saudi preacher Fayhan Ghamd was given a £31,000 fine despite admitting using a cable and a cane to beat his daughter

Saudi preacher Fayhan Ghamd was given a £31,000 fine despite admitting beating his daughter with a cable

Activists said the judge ruled the few months al-Ghamdi spent in prison since his arrest in November was sufficient punishment. 

He has reportedly agreed to pay £31,000 ($50,000), which is believed to have gone to Lama's mother.

The amount is half that would have been paid if Lama had been a boy.

Activists say under Islamic laws a father cannot be executed for murdering his children. Husbands can also not be executed for murdering their wives, the group say.

A social media campaign is now gaining momentum after the ruling was publicised.

Manal al-Sharif has launched a campaign on Twitter using the hashtag 'Ana Lama', which is translated as I am Lama, calling for better protection for children and women.

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And now a test.

  1. Can you tell from the above article, whether or not this incident happened in the UK?
  2. If you think it didn't, then how long do you think it will be before we read of such a crime in the UK?
  3. Do you respond to this incident as a fellow Islamic Fascist, as a Fascist-enabler, or merely with "Do I look bovvered?"

I have seen people bring up the following story/link in debates on "respectable" liberal-left sites in Britain in the past 12 months.  The post containing it is usually deleted within hours.

If it is not deleted, there is never any response to it by the defenders of islam.

After Anne Cryer MP went public in 2002 about the muslim grooming gangs in England, Channel 4 spent 2 years making a documentary about them.  The left/muslim/black groups got the documentary banned before it was shown (it was subsequently shown some months later). 

The liberal-left have been keeping a lid on these things for almost 2 decades.  The issues as understood by most of the "educated" (i.e. indoctrinated & conceited liberal-left) are so far removed from the piecemeal knowledge of ordinary people, that, apart from the gate-keepers who delete comments, or shut people up at public meetings, there is a chasm growing between the ordinary people who are liberal-left and the rest of us.  When it dawns on someone who has lived in this highly-censored world that they have been lied to (and been wrong) for so long, I believe they simply desert their previous position.  We have seen this with the UAF.  I will post some photos in a few weeks to show how the UAF has been decimated by its repeated deceit of its supporters.


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