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Kuffarphobia in China


Kuffarphobia in China

To deal with attacks on the 4 Freedoms by non-state movements in China

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Comment by Antony on January 14, 2018 at 17:40

China's attack on the Dollar - what does it mean ? ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 12, 2018 at 15:35

You are right Antony, the Chinese don't mess about, they just kill people. Actually buying into Pakistan and Afghanistan is better than sending in troops. the Chinese will control these economies and do not care if they become dictatorships.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 11, 2018 at 12:42

Good point about the Chinese built Spratly island being unsinkable.  It also probably costs a fraction of that of a US Aircraft carrier to build and operate.

Comment by Antony on January 11, 2018 at 11:53

China invests in Pakistan ; - they are welcome to both Pakistan and Afghanistan - we have wasted enough blood and treasure on behalf of the military-industrial complex over there - we should pull out of both countries and let China occupy them - they can deal with islamist militants in their own inimitable fashion, if they are occupied over there, they will not have time to expand elsewhere.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 11, 2018 at 10:52

This Chinese island is like a vast hangar ship and unsinkable. You would need a nuclear strike to take it out. We just have to recognise that China is a super power and hope they do not embark on global conquest. The best approach to China is diplomacy and trade. Stop this human-rights nonsense, China will evolve at it's own pace and it will resent any foreign interference. We have our own problems to solve, such as migration. It is best to treat China and Russia with respect.

Human rights and the like are what have gotten us into our present predicament, giving equal rights in all things to all comers. Only nationalism can save and strengthen us.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 10, 2018 at 20:14

China triggers new storm over military build-up on artificial islands

Images broadcast on CCTV showed that Beijing has intensified its construction of military instillation Credit: CCTV

China has triggered diplomatic protests after images broadcast on state television appeared to show it had reneged on a promise not to militarise artificial islands it has built in the South China Sea.

China has caused alarm among its neighbours and in Washington by erecting military installations on what were previously reefs and partially-submerged islets in the strategically-important waters.

Delfin Lorenzana, Philippine defence secretary, said that Beijing had agreed “some time ago” that it was “not going to militarise those reclaimed islands".

However, newly-broadcast images suggest that Beijing has intensified its construction of bunkers, aircraft hangers and barracks for troops in the contested region.

Comment by Antony on September 13, 2017 at 13:01

5 Types of warfare China is waging on the Western world ;

Note that the Left/Black Lives Matter & African dictators/Muslims still guilt trip the West on our relatively benign empires which we gave up 70 years ago, and are strangely silent on the Chinese colonialism-by-stealth of Africa. When the ordinary Africans start to get rebellious about this, they will be crushed by the Chinese... will the black diaspora in Europe,America and Brazil go over to help their brethren ?

Comment by Alan Lake on January 5, 2017 at 5:29

I came across this by chance.  It suggests a nightmare scenario, in 20 years time.  Then China will be economic superpower and may have a military to rival Americas.  It will have a hard working and orderly and well educated population.  But now it looks like it may also have a higher IQ, thanks to selection of brighter babies through IVF.

In 2014, I gave a talk at Transhuman Visions in 2014 where I said o... 

China's One child policy was lifted just as embryo selection based upon intelligence for invitro fertilized (IVF) babies becomes possible and we are on the cusp of genetic engineering. Women in China who are now older were banned from having babies but now will be allowed to have children. Many will not be able to conceive naturally and will use IVF. I see IVF going from 400,000 per year worldwide to 2-8 million per year over the next 10 years. IVF babies are more easily embryo selected and accessible for genetic modification. This would provide an economic boost to China in 20-30 years and the beginnings of a significant societal shift.

* Older women use IVF more than younger women
* Societal shifts that cause more older women to use IVF to have children means more opportunity for embryo selection and genetic intelligence enhancement.
* Countries that permit embyro selection and genetic intelligence enhancement provide the opportunity for IVF to be used for enhancement
* Medical tourism to permissive countries is another means for older women to use IVF in combination with embryo selection or genetic enhancement.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 17, 2016 at 15:14

Discipline in the work place.

Comment by Antony on November 19, 2016 at 14:09

How Chinese colonisation will crash world economy ;


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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