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Kuffarphobia in China


Kuffarphobia in China

To deal with attacks on the 4 Freedoms by non-state movements in China

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Corona Virus - Covid-19

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony May 5, 2020. 24 Replies

Map of Chinese Provinces

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Jihad against Chinese (650-751)

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on May 25, 2020 at 18:59
Coronavirus Pandemic Update 75: COVID-19 Lung Autopsies - New Data.
(Maybe lifelong immunity to COVID-19 is possible).

Comment by Philip Smeeton on April 26, 2020 at 9:04

The World Health Organization warns that being healthy after being corona sick does not necessarily mean that you are immune to the virus.
WHO's statement comes at a time when several countries have begun to reopen and ease restrictions.
"There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from covid-19 and have antibodies cannot be infected for the second time," the United Nations organization said in a statement on Saturday.
The WHO warned that people who have become healthy may tend to ignore public health advice, such as stop wearing face masks, because they think they are no longer a danger to themselves or others.
(It is mostly old people that are dying and any person that you come into contact with can infect you- even if they have had corona and survived it).It looks like corona is going to be "part and parcel" of our future.

Comment by Alan Lake on April 6, 2020 at 22:29

Sold by Tower Hamlets. Wonder if there were any kickbacks?

Comment by Alan Lake on April 6, 2020 at 22:27

Delancey's client fund and LRC Group complete the sale of the Royal Mint Court site to the People's Republic of China
18 MAY 2018

A joint venture between client funds of real estate investment advisory company Delancey and the LRC Group, today completed the sale of the iconic Royal Mint Court site, to the People’s Republic of China.  The sale follows an unsolicited offer from the People’s Republic of China, who intend to transform the site into their new embassy.

Located on the edge of the City, overlooking the River Thames, and opposite the Tower of London World Heritage Site, Royal Mint Court occupies a high profile and historically significant location, and comprises an extensive 5.4 acres on the former Royal Mint site. Previously home to the Royal Mint, with over ten centuries of coin production on the site and the adjoining Tower of London, the first coin was struck on the site in 1810, and one of Royal Mint Court’s first jobs was to strike medals for the troops at the Battle of Waterloo. In fact, the rich history of the site reaches back even further, and in 1560 it was used by the Royal Navy for its first large scale victualing yard, and in 1696 Sir Isaac Newton was appointed as warden of the estate.   The freehold of the site was originally acquired on an off-market basis by clients of Delancey in June 2010 from the Crown Estate. The majority of the estate became vacant in early 2013, making it suitable for a wholesale major redevelopment/refurbishment, and in April 2015, a joint venture was finalised with the LRC Group.   Planning consent was secured by the joint venture from Tower Hamlets in February 2017, for a comprehensive, architecturally ambitious refurbishment and part redevelopment, with permission to provide new retail and leisure accommodation, 1.8 acres of landscaped public realm, and 600,000 sq ft of modern high specification office space, approximately 50% more net office space than the site currently has.

Paul Goswell, Managing Director at Delancey, said: “We are delighted with the People’s Republic of China’s decision to transform Royal Mint Court into their new London embassy. Delancey, along with its partner LRC Group, were fully committed to building out the office development, having spent the last four years designing the scheme in conjunction with Tower Hamlets and the GLA, both of whom have been constructive and supportive throughout the process. However, the scale of the buildings, coupled with the unparalleled history and large area of amenity and public realm, make it one of a kind in the City of London and undeniably perfect for the needs of a prestigious embassy. We wish the People’s Republic of China all the very best in their new London home.”

Yehuda Barashi of The LRC Group said: “With its striking historic buildings, combined with adaptable modern infrastructure, excellent accessibility to the City and the west End, and the listed wall dating back to circa 1810 which surrounds the site, we always knew that Royal Mint Court was special. Home to the Royal Mint from 1810, this landmark site has already helped to shape the economic future of the UK, and we are excited to see it evolve and move into its fitting new chapter with the People’s Republic of China”

Paul Nicholls, Senior Director, UK Development, CBRE commented: “This is a landmark transaction for London and emphasises the capital’s importance in a global setting. We have been working with the Chinese Embassy for many years to identify a suitable site for its new headquarters and are delighted to have acquired Royal Mint Court on its behalf."

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 7, 2019 at 11:24

Given the basic noble intent of communist principles they have shown a surprising willingness to murder any that oppose them. Communists, Christians, Muslims and Nazis all share a fanatical hatred for any opposition while finding no fault in themselves.
There is no freedom in any of these systems of belief. Truly democratic well-armed secular mono-ethnic nations with rule-of-law are the closest you can get to freedom from oppression and security for the individual.

Comment by Antony on December 7, 2019 at 10:26
Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 24, 2019 at 12:00

Makes me wonder how feasible asteriod mining will be in the future.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on July 24, 2019 at 11:38

The Chinese are naturally going to put the interests of the Chinese before everything else, good for them.

Comment by Alan Lake on July 23, 2019 at 20:57

(Not about the 4 Freedoms, but very interesting, and of world-wide relevance)

Comment by Alan Lake on July 23, 2019 at 20:57

Well, the treaty (that China calls just a 'historic document') specifies that China leaves Hong Kong to its own affairs for 50 years, I think.  So they are showing an unseemly lack of patience :-)


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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